Griot's Garage NEW BOSS Paint Polishing System

Technically the Griots should way significantly less than the Rupes according to printed weight figures. About 9oz which you will feel after using it for a few hours.
 
RaskyR1 said:
I don't think anyone is saying it's dramatically different. Is there anything dramatically different between all the rotary polishers out there? They all look pretty much the same to me, yet there are several slight nuances between them all that can make a big difference in how it feels in your hands and performs.

These tool are targeted for both intermediate users (those wanting to step up from an 8mm tool) and professionals. I believe this was touched upon in the Griot's videos and at the Griot's release. It's one of the main reason's it ships without the washer installed but still includes it in the tool pouch.

How about I break things down a little and see if this helps compare the differences/improvements. I'll give 1 point to the tool I feel is the best at that feature and 0 for a tie and explain my thoughts for each where I feel it's needed. Obvioulsy a lot of these are subjective

So based on the above:
Griot's - 13
Rupes - 3
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Thanks for your honest feedback on comparing the Rupes and the Griot's long throw DA machines!

You rock Chad!
 
d33p said:
Technically the Griots should way significantly less than the Rupes according to printed weight figures. About 9oz which you will feel after using it for a few hours.
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Interesting. I'm ordering a scale from Amazon now because all the testers I talked to felt the Griot's was heavier. Not sure anyone actually weighed them though. Wonder if both were weighed with backing plates on? Just seems odd. I'll have the scale by Friday and will update if the above is actually accurate. :props:
 
RaskyR1 said:
Interesting. I'm ordering a scale from Amazon now because all the testers I talked to felt the Griot's was heavier. Not sure anyone actually weighed them though. Wonder if both were weighed with backing plates on? Just seems odd. I'll have the scale by Friday and will update if the above is actually accurate. :props:
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The Rupes is certainly not light by any means.

The MT300, that tool is pretty light.
 
Jaretr1 said:
The Rupes is certainly not light by any means.

The MT300, that tool is pretty light.
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No doubt! My first thought when I pulled it out of the box! :props:


Specs I'm seeing online list Rupes 21 at 5.5 lbs and G21 and 5.15. I still want to weigh for myself as it just seems odd everyone thought the Griot's were heavier.
 
RaskyR1 said:
No doubt! My first thought when I pulled it out of the box! :props:


Specs I'm seeing online list Rupes 21 at 5.5 lbs and G21 and 5.15. I still want to weigh for myself as it just seems odd everyone thought the Griot's were heavier.
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Will be interested in seeing the real weights.

Its also possible the Rupes is more balanced which will give the illusion of it being lighter. Maybe one is more front/back heavy? Of course Im assuming the printed weights are indeed the real weight.


The Rupes (from their website) is listed at 2.6kg = 5.7lb
 
Chad, thanks for sharing your hands on experience with the BOSS. Many of the improvements like trigger, power cord, build quality where things I noticed were absent on the Rupes from the get-go in my review:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...another-flex-3401-vs-rupes-21-comparison.html

I do appreciate the many improvements in the Boss, especially the heaven sent feathering trigger! I am surprise that despite Griot's efforts to be a unique design that "started from paper", they did not change the 15mm or 21mm throw.

It would of been awesome if the specs were 16mm and 22mm or even 14mm and 20mm. IMO, this would of truely seperated the BOSS from other copycats, otherwise the other 10 machines out there all have this magical "15mm and 21mm throw".
 
d33p said:
Will be interested in seeing the real weights.

Its also possible the Rupes is more balanced which will give the illusion of it being lighter. Maybe one is more front/back heavy? Of course Im assuming the printed weights are indeed the real weight.


The Rupes (from their website) is listed at 2.6kg = 5.7lb
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Having Jeff weigh them for me too, but one user checked and said they are both 6.1lbs and where the balance of the weight is, is different.

I did see the spec for Rupes on the UK site at 2600kg, which is actually 5732lbs, so I took the figures KB had listed on his site. ;)
 
RaskyR1 said:
Having Jeff weigh them for me too, but one user checked and said they are both 6.1lbs and where the balance of the weight is, is different.

I did see the spec for Rupes on the UK site at 2600kg, which is actually 5732lbs, so I took the figures KB had listed on his site. ;)
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So they aren't 5.1lbs as stated or was that 6.1 a typo?
 
d33p said:
So they aren't 5.1lbs as stated or was that 6.1 a typo?
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I'm guessing they were weighed with out accessories and backing plates. Pretty common actually, just like motorcycles always list the "dry" weight.
 
Good to know with the little extra power comes added weight. Nice machine nonetheless.
 
RaskyR1 said:
I'm guessing they were weighed with out accessories and backing plates. Pretty common actually, just like motorcycles always list the "dry" weight.
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I get why people are skeptical of this. I am a skeptic of anything new. But I dont know why people are tripping over a pound. I mean in the grand scheme of things is it something .7lbs up or down is going to persuade someone. Weight distapution does play a roll depending where it is held, like I believe you mentioned they have a different center.

From what I see and what is advertised is a well made inside and out machine. With all supporting mods included, with a "warranty" and unless the angels of the curves the the exact same specifications of another that has a patent it does not matter. Just look at the huge Samsung vs Apple war. The Rupes system is known and has a name. If GG took pointers and had made their best version of what it is and maybe addressed some short comings of the Rupes that many people have spoken of. Then dont we all win. Doesnt this mean that Rupes now has to "strike back"

Competition breeds Innovation
 
RaskyR1 said:
I'm guessing they were weighed with out accessories and backing plates. Pretty common actually, just like motorcycles always list the "dry" weight.
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Except the machine comes with the backing plate so Im a little surprised its not part of the listed weight. Its like weighing a car without wheels lol

Then again, the backing plate cant weight 1lb. 5.1lb to 6.1lb means something isnt right here.
 
d33p said:
Except the machine comes with the backing plate so Im a little surprised its not part of the listed weight. Its like weighing a car without wheels lol

Then again, the backing plate cant weight 1lb. 5.1lb to 6.1lb means something isnt right here.
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I honestly don't know the reason. The Rupes is listed wrong as well so I can only assume it's something like that.
 
Legacykid said:
I get why people are skeptical of this. I am a skeptic of anything new. But I dont know why people are tripping over a pound. I mean in the grand scheme of things is it something .7lbs up or down is going to persuade someone. Weight distapution does play a roll depending where it is held, like I believe you mentioned they have a different center.

From what I see and what is advertised is a well made inside and out machine. With all supporting mods included, with a "warranty" and unless the angels of the curves the the exact same specifications of another that has a patent it does not matter. Just look at the huge Samsung vs Apple war. The Rupes system is known and has a name. If GG took pointers and had made their best version of what it is and maybe addressed some short comings of the Rupes that many people have spoken of. Then dont we all win. Doesnt this mean that Rupes now has to "strike back"

Competition breeds Innovation
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The weight of a tool is really a non issue for me but a lighter tool is always welcome.

Yes! In fact my closing statement in my review over on the DI AAP Blog suggest just that. :)

"However, I feel the G15 and G21 are better tools in every way and if you are in the market for a new large-throw DA, my opinion is that THE BOSS™ just raised the bar to a significantly higher standard and threw down the DA gauntlet. The detailing industry has been exploding with great products, tools, and innovation over the past few years, fueled by a drive for excellence and thirst for competition and the top spot on the podium. Thus, with the release of these new Griot’s tools, I’m somehow reminded of the long history of the Camaro vs. the Mustang. Your move Rupes!"
 
I ordered the 15mm Boss, along with the carrying case.
This is my very first DA. Never once used a DA before. I primarily will be using it for applying wax (P21S wax) every 2 weeks on my new 2015 Prius. I will post my newbie opinion about it after I use it. :)
 
Armval said:
I ordered the 15mm Boss, along with the carrying case.
This is my very first DA. Never once used a DA before. I primarily will be using it for applying wax (P21S wax) every 2 weeks on my new 2015 Prius.
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A sledgehammer to drive a finishing nail? Well ... enjoy it. But please in the future use it for more than spreading wax!
 
Armval said:
I ordered the 15mm Boss, along with the carrying case.
This is my very first DA. Never once used a DA before. I primarily will be using it for applying wax (P21S wax) every 2 weeks on my new 2015 Prius. I will post my newbie opinion about it after I use it. :)
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Congratulations! I bet you're going to love the machine. It looks better than the Rupes in every aspect, IMO.
Maybe you could order some finishing polish, or a paintwork cleanser so that you can polish-away with your new machine. Don't forget a mild glass polish too!
 
Armval said:
I ordered the 15mm Boss, along with the carrying case.
This is my very first DA. Never once used a DA before. I primarily will be using it for applying wax (P21S wax) every 2 weeks on my new 2015 Prius. I will post my newbie opinion about it after I use it. :)
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Congrats! Definitely overkill for applying a wax, but you can always pick up some polishes later and baby step into it. ;)
 
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