Grit guard filter
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Dogfather
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Do you have one in the wash solution bucket as well? At the moment I only have 2 guards. What's better, two in the rinse bucket or one in each?
Wes Bremec
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Am I the only one that uses the grit guard itself to clean the wash media by agitating it to release dirt before grabbing more soap.i don't simply just dip it in the rinse bucket I agitate it against the grit guard.
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I do pretty much the same except if the vehicle is really dirty and the foam soak and rinse didnt clear all of the sand and dirt. In that case I flush the mitt from the inside out with the hose before agitating it in the top 1/2 of my rinse bucket. Done this for many years without using two grit guards or a filter.
Angler
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Not the only one; I do that too. I also use a grit guard in the wash solution bucket. Yeah, we are fanatics.
Dogfather
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No, you are not. Why would anyone not agitate their media against the guard? I believe this thread is exploring the best way to keep dirt that's been released down where it belongs.
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I came up with an even nuttier idea a while ago. I thought of a bucket with some type of powered active filtration. A bucket that somehow was drawing dirty water and particles out of the bottom through many medium size holes in the bucket bottom and replacing it with clean filtered water at the top.
There would be some type of external filtering mechanism built into to the bucket with some type of replaceable paper filter cartridge, similar to a fuel filter.
This type of bucket would be a double walled bucket, and the fresh/clean water would enter the hollow space between the inside and outside of the bucket. Then, at the top of the bucket, there would be several holes calibrated to the correct size and quantity so the water slowly drips down the inside of the usable part of the bucket - where the wash solution is - so suds don't overflow all over.
I was thinking it would make a 2 bucket system and possibly grit guards unnecessary, as the water would constantly be getting filtered. If you thought you had some dirt in the bucket, you could just wait a few minutes for it to be filtered away. I was thinking maybe it could filter 1/2 gallon a minute or such.
Since you would only need a single bucket, bucket shape wouldn't be important. So, I was thinking of a square bucket for stability, and much of the filtering mechanism would be located in the hollow space between the double wall of the bucket - one bucket side having more hollow space than the other.
However, the issue is power. What would you do, plug it in? That starts to get complicated. Now your dragging a corded bucket around. Maybe some type of rechargeable built in battery. But, I'm not sure such a battery exists.
Back to the drawing board.
There would be some type of external filtering mechanism built into to the bucket with some type of replaceable paper filter cartridge, similar to a fuel filter.
This type of bucket would be a double walled bucket, and the fresh/clean water would enter the hollow space between the inside and outside of the bucket. Then, at the top of the bucket, there would be several holes calibrated to the correct size and quantity so the water slowly drips down the inside of the usable part of the bucket - where the wash solution is - so suds don't overflow all over.
I was thinking it would make a 2 bucket system and possibly grit guards unnecessary, as the water would constantly be getting filtered. If you thought you had some dirt in the bucket, you could just wait a few minutes for it to be filtered away. I was thinking maybe it could filter 1/2 gallon a minute or such.
Since you would only need a single bucket, bucket shape wouldn't be important. So, I was thinking of a square bucket for stability, and much of the filtering mechanism would be located in the hollow space between the double wall of the bucket - one bucket side having more hollow space than the other.
However, the issue is power. What would you do, plug it in? That starts to get complicated. Now your dragging a corded bucket around. Maybe some type of rechargeable built in battery. But, I'm not sure such a battery exists.
Back to the drawing board.
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Two in your rinse bucket works best. Someone did a test (vid) with a clear 5 gallon bucket using one GG vrs. two GG and the two GG would not allow the grit to rise while swirling the wash mitt in the bucket.
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cardaddy
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With 2, the "filter" between them would work AWESOME!
I use a minimum of 2 during the 'clean water' phase. I also NEVER let one go to the bottom of the rinse bucket either. I'll rinse it really well, (even with a hose sometimes) agitating it inside the rinse bucket (that has a capful of ONR or a ½ ounce of shampoo in it) and after squeezing it out I'll drop it in the soap bucket.
We tend to keep another set of mitts for the lower third of all the panels and after we're finished with the top, down to the lower panels we'll finish the rest with the 'dirty mitts'. Of course all the rockers, front and rear lower valance, exhaust and such are done with brushes, Woolies, sponges or microfibers.
I'd say 1 in each. Better yet, 1 in your rinse bucket and 2 in your wash bucket. Or vice versa. :dunno:
I'd bet putting the matt in either will be a HUGE improvement. If I were to work with the matt I'd put 2 grit guards in the rinse bucket. Then put the matt in the bottom of the wash bucket with a grit guard on top of it. Reason being, the wash water would be a LOT cleaner so 2 grit guards in the wash bucket are probably not needed.
FWIW; Once I've finished a wash job on an average (dirty) vehicle I'll pour out the wheel bucket and rinse it good. Then I'll take the soap from the wash bucket and rotate it to the wheel bucket. THE WHEEL BUCKET NEVER GETS USED FOR WASHING AND NEVER HAS ANY TOOLS THAT TOUCH IT THAT GET NEAR PAINT, EVER - NEVER - EVER.
If the soap was for my G35 (which doesn't get dirty) then I'll just save the wash water and use it a second time either on another vehicle, or sometimes on the G35. (With my OCD rinsing of my wash mitts plus using the rinse bucket, my wash soap doesn't hardly get dirty at all.)
Personally; I really will not, and don't want to agitate the mitt against the grit guard.:nomore:
Getting it that close to all the gunk in the bottom and then stirring it up is just going to end up suspending it in the solution, which the mitt will pick up, thus negating any benefit you'll get from having it there in the first place.
OP:
This could be a darned good idea when you think of it.
rops:The point of the grit guard is to try and "trap" particles that the wash media can pick up from your vehicle and transfer to your cleaning solution. Sure, large items and rocks will drop to the bottom along with heavier sand, but lighter sand and silica particles, bug fragments, wings and such can easily be disturbed by sloshing around the solution. Doing so will end up with them getting deposited back into your washing media.
I can say first hand that the type of media that the blue matt is, are used for "polishing water" in your fish tanks. I have a very similar media in both my Fluval filters (it's just white). It doesn't take much imagination to see where the small particles that would sit on the bottom (yet be easily disturbed) could sink into the matt and be much less likely to end up suspended in the washing solution. REALLY GREAT IDEA! :dblthumb2:
Along those lines, perhaps any similar pads would work, even one that's meant for floor buffing. (Not the sanding cut.) With the trick being that it is open enough to allow particles to settle down in the media without being easily disturbed and suspended back into the washing solution. :dunno:
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Yes Patent is what I meant, that's what I get for being in a hurry and typing a response while trying to watch a football game. The main point I was trying to make is that the OP has a good/great idea of just one more method/security step to keep dirt from entering back into the washing cycle and added scratches to our paint. We all go to extremes (compared to the normal person, we are not normal) in one way or another to keep our cars or customers cars looking great. The OP had an idea that would just be one addition piece of insurance to help ensure that. Even if it works to only trap a few extra particles that would have made their way back into the washing process. I was amazed at how many people were basically responding that this idea is a waste of time and unnecessary. Yet as I look through all of the products on AGO and other detailing supply stores, many of the products could fall into that same category. Would I ever buy these filters??? Probably not, I'd probably just make my own just as the OP did, but I'm sure there would be plenty of people who would, especially if marketed correctly. He should get his piece of the pie just for taking the time to think of it and actually putting it to use.
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