Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer: Some Thoughts

C. Charles Hahn

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First off, a shout out and big THANK YOU to Chris and Luan Lamb @ Grit Guard for being gracious enough to send me this fantastic tool!

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Background

When I first received the Universal Pad Washer (UPW) I read through the instructions and watched back the mini-class Chris did at Autogeek's Detail Fest so I would know how the tool is intended to be used. In both cases, it was recommended to fill the UPW with water until it reached about 1/4" over the top of the grit guard insert with the cups fully compressed.

Trial by Fire

I tried the UPW on a few foam pads I had, using my G110v2 to facilitate the cleaning efforts and while the unit certainly did do a great job of cleaning the pads, I must say the experience left me less than impressed. Water ended up getting EVERYWHERE -- all over me, all over the polisher, and all over the garage, even though I was operating the polisher on speed setting "1" and had the splash guard on the UPW fully closed and secured. The pads were also quite wet even after using the Grit Guard extension to "dry" them post-cleaning.

Dilemma

My initial reaction was that I wouldn't be likely to use the UPW very much if at all considering the absolute mess it made. However, since I knew many others out there were having better luck with their units and swore by them, I decided to experiment to see what I could do to reduce the amount of splash-back while still achieving thorough cleaning of the pad in use.

Solution

What I ultimately came up with was to lower the water level in the UPW to a level well below the manufacturer's recommendation. My setup was as follows:

1) Place the Grit Guard "Vortex Base" into the empty bucket, with the spring loaded cups, insert, and extension removed.

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2) Note that at the top of the four protrusions where each cup will be seated, there is a line where the molding cast joins together (it shows up white in this photo, for reference)

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3) Fill the bucket with water up to this casting line

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4) Next, install the four spring loaded cups. Note that when depressed, the water level does not even rise to the top of the cups.

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5) Also notice that the Grit Guard Insert does not become submerged when fully depressed.

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This lower water level drastically reduced the amount of splatter which occurred during pad cleaning, and the spring loaded cups were still able to act as "jets" in their design-intended fashion to inject water and cleaning solution into the pad being cleaned. Even without the water/cleaning jets, the motion of the polisher itself seems to cause enough water to splash up onto the pad and machine that a higher level of water seems a bit unnecessary.

That said, I do see one potential caveat with my method which is that the Grit Guard insert may become caked with compound and other crud because it is not submerged under water during the cleaning procedure. I will have to monitor it as I use other pads with it and see if this becomes a problem or not, and address that if/when necessary. All I know is that it seems to have done an excellent job on the MF DA pads as well as a couple Meguiar’s W-8006 pads I cleaned with it.

Additional Thoughts

My one suggestion to the folks at Grit Guard would be that a seal of some sort around the insert might be a good idea to further help prevent extraneous splatter. As the insert is not sized to be an exact fit in the top of a 5 gallon bucket, it does have the opportunity for a bit of lateral movement from side to side while a polisher is running on top of it. Something to secure the insert in the center of the bucket without impeding its ability to be compressed into the water should help stabilize the tool during use and keep the vanes of the insert from "sloshing" as much water around as it does currently.

Results


That said, as you can see here while this Meguiar's DMC5 pad did still remain stained with the color of the compound that was being used, it is perfectly clean, dry, and ready to be buffed with again. Cleaning took a matter of 20 seconds at the very most.

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Having used the UPW over the last few days extensively while buffing out a couple of cars, I can say that it has quickly become one of the best tools in my arsenal given the ability to clean pads on the fly, reducing the number of pad changes per job and improving the consistency of my results from section to section. For hobbyists and pros alike, the increased productivity this tool provides makes it an essential item in any detailer's arsenal.

Thanks for reading!
 
Great review Charlie! I brought mine with me this week to attempt cleaning pads again. I used it once last year and tucked it away in the corner of my garage. I will try both methods tonight. :props:
 
Great review Charlie! I brought mine with me this week to attempt cleaning pads again. I used it once last year and tucked it away in the corner of my garage. I will try both methods tonight. :props:

Thanks Richard! I'll be interested to hear your thoughts/experiences. :buffing:
 
Thanks for the review. I have been considering one of these for a while. Just seems a bit pricy to me.
 
Thanks for the review. I have been considering one of these for a while. Just seems a bit pricy to me.

No doubt it's a bit pricey, and honestly it's not something I would have likely picked up if I hadn't won it in the chat on AutopiaForums.

Now that I've got it though I think it could potentially pay for itself over time since I won't have to keep quite as many pads on hand (over time thinning out my inventory as I wear out and replace what I have).

So I guess it's a personal choice. If you'd rather put the money into having lots of fresh pads that's a valid approach; or you could put the money into a pad washer and not have to have as many pads on hand since this does a very effective job of cleaning on the fly as compared to the towel method.
 
No doubt it's a bit pricey, and honestly it's not something I would have likely picked up if I hadn't won it in the chat on AutopiaForums.

Now that I've got it though I think it could potentially pay for itself over time since I won't have to keep quite as many pads on hand (over time thinning out my inventory as I wear out and replace what I have).

So I guess it's a personal choice. If you'd rather put the money into having lots of fresh pads that's a valid approach; or you could put the money into a pad washer and not have to have as many pads on hand since this does a very effective job of cleaning on the fly as compared to the towel method.


Some good points there. Thanks again, Charlie!:props:
 
You said you got a lot of splatter using the pad washer. Did you keep dunking it up and down in the water while cleaning it or did you just "prime it"? Here is a quote of mine from my review of the Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer:


Word of advice - spritz your pad with the PRS, then only "dunk it" in the water once or twice to prime it - to clean it, just move it around on the small insert, don't keep dunking it in the water. I did, and figured out that that was why I was making a mess. The water and pad cleaning solution is just there for priming - let the grit guard and the insert do the cleaning for you.


See my review here: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...t-review-grit-guard-universal-pad-washer.html
 
You said you got a lot of splatter using the pad washer. Did you keep dunking it up and down in the water while cleaning it or did you just "prime it"? Here is a quote of mine from my review of the Grit Guard Universal Pad Washer:

See my review here: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...t-review-grit-guard-universal-pad-washer.html

Yeah Shane, that was just with priming the pad -- like I said I found just turning the machine on with it sitting on top of the insert and extension would get lots of water splashing. Lowering the water level seems to help the water stay under the splash guard instead of getting out and all over everything else.

I haven't tried adding any pad rejuvenator or anything to the water in the bucket like you did though... I'll give it a shot the next time I use it. Good tip! :props:
 
Shane, thanks for your review & video links; and thanks Shiny Lil Detlr for starting this topic with your comments. The GGUPW is up there in price and, like Shane, cleaning pads took some of the fun out of detailing. I went ahead and spent the bucks and got one and I'm so glad I did; it makes clean up really pretty easy. I've got a Corolla coming in this weekend and I know I'll stack up the pads. Having the Pad Washer available will make the whole experience much nice.
 
Splashing is a real issue for me on a DA, rotary has no such issues. I think I'm going to lower the water level and see how that goes.
 
Thanks for the great review Shiny and Ciera. If I was a pro detailer I might purchase one of these things however the price is just a bit too high IMO for a 5 gallon bucket with four spring loaded tubes for a weekender like myself.
 
Kudos to you Charlie on a very well written, easy to understand and follow article. Besides the cost factor, I also had my doubts about the performance of this piece of equipment and thought it seemed "gimmicky". Now I will reconsider my previous preconceived notions.

Once again I applaud you and the others who do these reviews.

Bob
 
I have enjoyed mine, like you I found by lowering the water level helped reduce the splashing. I've also found that if your pads don't dry enough that a quick roll up in a MF towel will usually do the trick.:xyxthumbs:
 
Shane, thanks for your review & video links; and thanks Shiny Lil Detlr for starting this topic with your comments. The GGUPW is up there in price and, like Shane, cleaning pads took some of the fun out of detailing. I went ahead and spent the bucks and got one and I'm so glad I did; it makes clean up really pretty easy. I've got a Corolla coming in this weekend and I know I'll stack up the pads. Having the Pad Washer available will make the whole experience much nice.

Thanks! :xyxthumbs:

how you liking the HD UNO?

Good eye! I'm loving the UNO; that bottle in particular is a "LAB SAMPLE" so I don't know if it's the same as the release formula UNO 3.0 or not, but it finishes down extremely well. Only gripe I have is that wipe-off isn't as easy as I'd like it to be.

Splashing is a real issue for me on a DA, rotary has no such issues. I think I'm going to lower the water level and see how that goes.

Good luck! Let us know what you think :xyxthumbs:

Thanks for the great review Shiny and Ciera. If I was a pro detailer I might purchase one of these things however the price is just a bit too high IMO for a 5 gallon bucket with four spring loaded tubes for a weekender like myself.

Fair enough; thanks! :buffing:

Kudos to you Charlie on a very well written, easy to understand and follow article. Besides the cost factor, I also had my doubts about the performance of this piece of equipment and thought it seemed "gimmicky". Now I will reconsider my previous preconceived notions.

Once again I applaud you and the others who do these reviews.

Bob

Thanks Bob! :props:

I have been looking into this pad washer, as I have the..

System 2000 Pad Cleaner, System 2000 Rotary polisher pad washer

And it is a piece of ####. Does a poor job of cleaning the pads, never can get completely in the middle of the pad and takes a few minutes per one pad. But since your review on this...I think I might be doomed on any of the systems.

Doomed how? :confused:

I have enjoyed mine, like you I found by lowering the water level helped reduce the splashing. I've also found that if your pads don't dry enough that a quick roll up in a MF towel will usually do the trick.:xyxthumbs:

That's another good tip, thanks! :dblthumb2:
 
Great review Charlie that is sure to help other out that have already purchased the tool as well as anyone that may be on the fence
 
I am not a pro but a hobbyist and I have this system. Wait for a sale to purchase the item and the cost is a little better. I have found that my pads last longer in that the backing does not separate from the pad due to the glue dissolving. This is a big savings and should be mentioned.

I also like the ease of use and the speed in which pads are cleaned.
 
Great review Charlie that is sure to help other out that have already purchased the tool as well as anyone that may be on the fence

Thanks Jason! :props:

I am not a pro but a hobbyist and I have this system. Wait for a sale to purchase the item and the cost is a little better. I have found that my pads last longer in that the backing does not separate from the pad due to the glue dissolving. This is a big savings and should be mentioned.

I also like the ease of use and the speed in which pads are cleaned.

Excellent points :dblthumb2:
 
Defenetly a good review, i had been waiting to see a review on this pad washer. Charlie made some great points and its defenetly something to have for washing pads. Im sure we all love buffing and using up our pads but the least fun part of it all is cleaning all those pads afterwards. This seems like a real convinient tool to speed up cleaning our pads. It also seems like a great tool for those that dont have many pads, you can clean em right away on the spot and keep working. Great review charlie, it sure gave me the green light to buy this one.
 
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