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[ClayR]

EXO, official note in the Gtechniq blog line #15 is "C1 can be stacked with EXO within 6 hours. EXO on the other hand needs 30mins between coats"

So who ever said after six hours, you get the prize. Still it is dependent on the environmental conditions. All the same, it's recommend waiting as long as possible to coating C1 so it has time to harden.

 

[TundraPower]

Look at all these replies...this is why I no longer use Gtechniq. I can easily do three average cars with 22PLE ($130 per container) at $350 per car, two average cars with Migliore Strata ($80 per container) at $225 per car. Either is dirt cheap for my customers when it comes to applying coatings, and anybody with an IQ over 50 can apply them.

 

[Pureshine]

Look at all these replies...this is why I no longer use Gtechniq. I can easily do three average cars with 22PLE ($130 per container) at $350 per car, two average cars with Migliore Strata ($80 per container) at $225 per car. Either is dirt cheap for my customers when it comes to applying coatings, and anybody with an IQ over 50 can apply them.

:iagree: I only use Opti-Coat which is very easy to apply one coat done. The only reason I use Gtechniq on the 2 cars I did was cause they bought it and payed me to apply.

 

[TundraPower]

:iagree: I only use Opti-Coat which is very easy to apply one coat done. The only reason I use Gtechniq on the 2 cars I did was cause they bought it and payed me to apply.

I would have charged them out the !@#$%^ to apply it whether they bought it or not. I'm probably the only person that hasn't used Opti-Coat and I need to. (I tried their polishes and they made me mad. But I know that's not fair.) I've been a 22PLE person ever since it came out. Although I have to say I've only seen a handful of LSP's sheet and dry as fast as Strata, and none of them cost $80. This is a major home run for Migliore.

 

[pickles]

So anyone like using Silo spray? I am also hoping to get Reload. Any opinions on those two.

 

[kevincwelch]

I applied C1 and EXOv2 to my Tesla. The application of C1 was very straight forward; I am a novice, and this was my first attempt at any coating (when I did it).

It was in the 60s, and I applied EXOv2 about 12 hours after C1. This was based on a consensus of opinions regarding the time window -- mostly from other detailers and Rob. So, I would use the 3-12 hour window. Applying a second layer of EXOv2 was done about 30 minutes after the first coat of EXOv2.

It all looks fantastic! There's one area in the middle of the roof that I had trouble reaching with my arm and buffing, so there's a high spot when you see if from a certain angle. Totally my novice mistake and due to poor lighting in my garage.

I applied G1 to my windows -- love it.

I applied C4 to my trim -- it is holding up very well.

I applied C5 to my new wheels -- I'll let you know in the spring how well it has done .

Admittedly, the hole line of Gtechniq products is pretty silly if indeed C4 and C5 are actually rebottled C1. I do not like the little gauze applications and much prefer the foam block that is used with CQuartz products or the foam block for the DP/PBL products.

I have topped my C1/EXOv2 car with both Reload and C1.5. Personally, I think the Reload looks better.

I will probably apply Opticoat to my wife's car in the spring. I'm conflicted since I have all this PBL coating stuff that I'm not high on anymore.

 

[KevinGTNA]

"more than 3 less than 12"
this was Rob's response about topping exo over C1
and yes i do agree that is a huge gap between the 2 of them

Hey all. This is Kevin from GTechniq North America to clear up a few things. Starting with the great cure time debate.

Basically, the 3-12 hour window is correct, but it depends on the exact conditions you are applying the GTechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer in. The higher the temp and humidity, the faster it is going to cure.

Here is the baseline that I recommend using. At 68 degrees with little to moderate humidity, you can apply EXOv2 on C1 after 5-6 hours. We also have done tests in a body shop bake booth and cured the c1 in about 45 minutes.

Rob is the founder and head of GTechniqUK, and I speak to him quiet often, obviously.

Moving forward, I will try to be more involved with responses to this form. If anyone has a question that is not getting answered, email Gtechniq North America directly and I will respond as quickly as possible.

 

[KevinGTNA]

C2V3 is extremely streaky (especially in high humidity) and takes a lot of patience to get clear. I wish they would bring their smart carnauba spray wax back. That stuff was great!

The C2V3 Liquid Crystal can be very streaky if applied improperly. In this product's case, less is better. You don't need a TON of product to cover the area you are working on. Lightly mist a clean microfiber rag, wipe it onto the area you are working on, and then take a dry microfiber behind it to finish up and remove any excess product.

If you are still having issues with streaking, cut the C2v3 down 1:1 with distilled, DI, or RO water and repeat the same process as above.

Just remember, less is more.

 

[KevinGTNA]

thanks for the replies!

So what about using the glass products and wheel Armour in conjunction with EXO?

Good idea or Overkill?

I don't recommend using EXOv2 Hybrid coating over the glass if you are using G1 or G5. The products alone should be just fine.

As far as the C5 Wheel Armor, you can certainly put EXOv2 on top of it. We have seen that the combination of C5 Wheel Armor and EXOv2 can actually bring out metal flake and add amazing clarity to rims that a lot of people have never even seen before, even on brand new rims.

 

[KevinGTNA]

I have heard problems of exov2 streaking or ghosting as well. I can see why. When I applied it to my truck it did the same thing (streaked) and was hard to remove. You think you wiped it off but it's still there. Kinda like "caked" on and I constantly had to keep turning my suede mf towel and used about 3 of them. Flood lights really helped me find the spots I missed.
And from what I'm aware of. You have to wait 3 hours after applying c1 to top it with exov2.

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The problem with ghosting or streaking when using EXOv2 usually comes from one of two mistakes:
1). Using too much product. You only need a small amount of product on the applicator pad. it doesn't need to be saturated, 5-6 drops is a perfect amount to do a 12-18 inch square section.
2). working too large of a section: You don't want to work whole panels at a time with EXO. It starts to cure very quickly and you want to keep your microfiber towel moving over the section you are working on until all excess product has been removed.

If you would like to be emailed our new Product Info and Application Guide, please send me a PM with your email address.

 

[addysdaddy]

The C2V3 Liquid Crystal can be very streaky if applied improperly. In this product's case, less is better. You don't need a TON of product to cover the area you are working on. Lightly mist a clean microfiber rag, wipe it onto the area you are working on, and then take a dry microfiber behind it to finish up and remove any excess product.

If you are still having issues with streaking, cut the C2v3 down 1:1 with distilled, DI, or RO water and repeat the same process as above.

Just remember, less is more.

To be honest Kevin, I don't want to be concerned about streaking and since I leave in a high humidity environment, not sure this the coating for me. There are choices in the marketplace that make it a no brainer for applying and that's frankly what I'm looking for. Appreciate your candor.

 

[kevincwelch]

To be honest Kevin, I don't want to be concerned about streaking and since I leave in a high humidity environment, not sure this the coating for me. There are choices in the marketplace that make it a no brainer for applying and that's frankly what I'm looking for. Appreciate your candor.

I applied my C1/EXOv2 in the middle of July, which is typically upper 80s/lower 90s and is fairly humid. I waited 12 hours after application of C1 to apply EXOv2. I have only one area that shows streaking -- in the middle of my roof where I was careless about my reach and failed to double check my work. Elsewhere, it is flawless.

I'm not worried about the high temps or humidity if it is in the 3-12 hour window.

 

[addysdaddy]

I applied my C1/EXOv2 in the middle of July, which is typically upper 80s/lower 90s and is fairly humid. I waited 12 hours after application of C1 to apply EXOv2. I have only one area that shows streaking -- in the middle of my roof where I was careless about my reach and failed to double check my work. Elsewhere, it is flawless.

I'm not worried about the high temps or humidity if it is in the 3-12 hour window.

Is the same true for the application of C2v3?

 

[kevincwelch]

Is the same true for the application of C2v3?

I can't answer that as I've not used it before. I suspect it would be similar to applying Permanon Platinum, since according to Permanon's site, they are the same (see right column, last FAQ).

I have applied C1.5 on top of the C1/EXOv2 before as a maintenance, and I would definitely say "less is more" for this as it can leave some streaking if you're not careful. (I think this may be less of an issue than with C2v3.)

 

[Greeley Autospa]

I applied c1 and topped it with exo v2 and have streaks really bad. What is the best method for applying exo? Should pressure be applied or just lay the applicator on there and move around with very light pressure? Should the product always be wet during application or do we apply as if its a hazy product with minimal amount and then use microfiber? Ive tried several methods of application and still ended up with streaks. Not exactly sure what Im doing wrong