Gyeon Bathe+ Initial thoughts/review

[Eldorado2k]

Here’s a product I had been excited about and waiting in anticipation for the past week to arrive.. Premium price? Yes, but that didn’t bother me as I’m looking to step my game up and offer my maintenance wash customers higher quality results.

So that brings us here:

I prepped my car yesterday evening by doing a rinseless wash with Meguiars D114, followed by Med. Grade Nanoskin mitt which resulted in a bare clean surface free from any beading.

After doing my research in excitement to test this soap I watched every video review I could find online. Based on my research, I decided to go with a higher dilution ratio than is recommended by Gyeon. [they recommend 15-20ml. Per 15 liters of water. Or basically .5oz. Per 4 gallons of water]

I was in no mood to be let down by this product, nor was I in the mood to write a negative review... So I figured I’d give this soap every opportunity to shine [or in this case bead] I went with a dilution of .5oz Per 1 gallon of water. I’m anal when it comes to dilutions because I want to see the true results as intended.

Shake well, pour .5 oz.

This is just under 1 gallon of water, the rest will be used to create the suds. I guess there won’t be a grit guard for this test. [it’s ok I never use it anyway. Lol. Besides I washed my car yesterday so it’s not really dirty]

I removed the grit guard, added the soap and hit it with the jet. Initially the suds look impressive. [more on the suds later]

Tossed in 1 mitt and dunked it, allowing it to marinate for almost 5min. while I rinsed the car.

As we can see, no beading on the paint pre wash.

Onto the wash... It didn’t take very long for me to go around the whole car as it wasn’t really dirty. I went back into the bucket frequently to have as much soap as possible. I was done washing in about 5-6min. So far everything’s going great..

Onto the post wash rinse. Here’s the big payoff, or so I thought...

What?

No way... Lets try from another angle, it’s gotta be a fluke?

Umm...

Lets try another panel...

Lets give it every chance in the world! Bead dang it you better bead... Heck, can you at least sheet? I was anticipating something, anything.

It doesn’t even sheet!

No beading, no sheeting, not even a hint of it anywhere on the car...

And the suds? Here’s what it looks like immediately post wash. [1st soap I’ve ever seen lose it’s suds 100%]

So what’s my honest opinion of this soap, Gyeon Bathe+? Ladies and gentlemen, it’s hot garbage. I gave it every chance to show and prove. I used it at a much higher dilution than recommended and it completely failed to show any hint of results. I’m trying to be polite but holy hype this is just the worst...

And if you don’t believe my detailed documentation, have a look at this video by another person on youtube. Same results, zero beading up until 1:40min. mark. And even later in the vid. when used straight the beading is maybe 4/10 super weak beading... It’s funny how this persons vid. has 15likes and 12dislikes. Why the dislikes? I’m guessing fanboys are upset that the truth is being shown. Zero beading. What a huge disappointment Gyeon.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoy_vfjV2Rs

 

[Aaryn NZ]

Wow! Thats super disappointing for sure. I haven't tried Bathe+ myself but it was on my list of things to do . . . not overly excited to do so now. Thanks for the honest review albeit a disappointing result.

Aaryn NZ. :xyxthumbs:

 

[The Guz]

I have had good results the couple times I used it. Bathe+ is not a high suds producing shampoo. So what you experienced is normal with the suds. It's not going to give months of protections. A few weeks at best.

Try what Gyeon mentions in their video when using it as a bucket wash.

Similar to what this guy did. He got good results.

 

[Ronin47]

I agree with Eldorado, Bathe+ is a disappointing product on the whole. Wash with Reset, top with Ech20/Reload mix and you good to go.

 

[SWETM]

Before you let it down for good would you test it out one more time in the direction I have to use it?

Take 3-4 gallons of water and 0.5oz of bathe+ and activate as you did.
When you wash the car do it 1 panel and if you have a power wash use that and rinse from the bottom up from side to side. So the spray pattern from the PW touch every part of the panel. This is what I have seen activate bathe + and the content in it the best way. When you have rinsed of bathe + so you don't see anything left move on to the next panel. Start washing from the top panels and work your way down as useally. When done use the hose to do a final rinse so you are certain of get all the residue of the car. As you do this you will see the water behavior it's creating. If not this happens when do it this way. Something is wrong with the product or it's just not that good.

Yeah I know this is much more of PIA than a regualar wash. But humor me to test it out and it's important to use more water and do it panel to panel and rinse with the strongest water spray you have to activate it. This is as you would do with gyeon wet coat also and my findings is that it's best way with PW and panel by panel to apply to get the most out of it.

And the suds is well known to not last with wash and coat sio2 schampos. So that is what it is.

You can test this to the hood or the trunk.

 

[atgonzales]

Eldo, an honest professional review, maybe the Gyeon rep can give us some input

 

[Klasse Act]

Did you wash 2 different cars in the pics?

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[DBAILEY]

It looks like you need to try it again and follow the directions in that video Guz provided. After you went around the car with the initial wash, pour a tiny amount onto the wash pad and wipe it onto the panel and then rinse that panel. Move on the next panel. You didn't foam it on the car as intended. You are just using it as a wash and not really laying down protection. I agree with SWETM, using a PW with the Carpro products does provide faster set-up and better results. I'm sure it the same with the Gyeon stuff.

I have one of those WORX power washer tools and that has been plenty strong enough to set up the Carpro products quickly. I hate dragging out the big PW for a wash.

 

[Klasse Act]

Same directions for regular Bathe?

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[DBAILEY]

No there is a second step to it. You either bucket wash with Bathe(or +) and then foam the car with Bathe+ and rinse with PW. Or wash with bucket wash with Bathe(or +) and then pour a tiny amount of Bathe+ onto your mitt/pad and rub that concentrated amount directly onto the panel then rinse with a PW.

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

You DID NOT use it the correct way. Apply directly to wash media(best way) or use in a foam cannon.

 

[JustJesus]

My notes from when I used it November of last year:

=== I got the + version of Bathe, so it`s supposed to help keep the car clean, and rinse off easy, maybe leave some protection behind. I covered up some spots on the driver side doors, to see if I would see a difference between the washed sections and unwashed sections. Well, maybe the soap went through and got everything anyway. I couldn`t see a difference. However. I took the Jeep on some off road trails the following Saturday. Plenty of dirt, many miles driven. Car looked cleaner than the other 8 that were there. Two days later I washed it with high pressure water (ONLY) at the local coin op, and it rinsed off easy and looked clean.===

Note: I haven't used it since.

 

[Klasse Act]

Why haven't you used it again?

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[JustJesus]

Why haven't you used it again?

My bad. I should have added to that!

Well, I wasn't impressed with it. Aside from having several other soaps to choose from, MAINLY, I'm doing rinseless washing these days. When I do a standard "bucket" wash, I tend to reach for 3D Pink mixed with Griot's Car Wash. I like 3D enough, and I picked up (locally) 5 gallons during a sale Got it dirt cheap.

The addition of Griot's is something I picked up from another member on another site. Seems to add a bit of something, lubricity(?) or something. Been a while, so I forget.

I did give out a couple of samples of Bathe+ to some members here, just to see if they had a different experience with it. Reminds me, though, I haven't heard back from those guys!

 

[Eldorado2k]

Thanks for the honest review albeit a disappointing result.

Aaryn NZ. :xyxthumbs:

You’re very welcome.

It's not going to give months of protections. A few weeks at best.

A single day would’ve been nice... And like I said in my OP, I’ve already watched all the vids.

I agree with Eldorado, Bathe+ is a disappointing product on the whole. Wash with Reset, top with Ech20/Reload mix and you good to go.

Thanks for keeping it real.

Before you let it down for good would you test it out one more time in the direction I have to use it?

I’d be more than willing to, however I don’t have a power washer.

Eldo, an honest professional review, maybe the Gyeon rep can give us some input

Slim chance... But I sure would like to have a live conversation over the phone with someone from Gyeon to see what they’ve got to say about this. Unfortunately it’s not very easy to do that... You can send them a message, but it looks like they get to choose which messages they want to reply to. “Oh this person has a complaint.. Let me choose someone else, like this 1 who filled out the Company space, he probably wants to make a large purchase”

Their telephone # is a call to Korea. Oh how convenient that is... Just give me a minute to brush up on my Korean before I make the call.

Did you wash 2 different cars in the pics?

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Dude, my car is 2 different colors. Think of it as a special limited edition Seville.

You are just using it as a wash and not really laying down protection.

According to Gyeon official website, “just a quick wash is enough to obtain a marvelous hydrophobic effect”

You DID NOT use it the correct way. Apply directly to wash media(best way) or use in a foam cannon.

I didn’t use it the right way? Btw, I used it at 3X the recommended dilution ratio. Doesn’t that count for anything?! Read the bold print on the bottle. Am I crazy to expect to see some beading after a bucket wash??

“One Simple Step”... Not one simple step, but then you better do this and that if you expect to see any results. Is that what you get for the premium price?! Is that what you settle for?

It’s called “Bathe+” right? If I wanted something I had to wipe on I would’ve bought “Wipe+”

Or maybe it’s called Bathe+ because the + means Bathe plus jumping through hurdles if you want any kind of beading from this expensive car soap. Lame.

Well, I wasn't impressed with it.

I did give out a couple of samples of Bathe+ to some members here, just to see if they had a different experience with it. Reminds me, though, I haven't heard back from those guys!

I guarantee they felt the exact same way, otherwise they would’ve at least thanked you.

Another thing that stands out: While watching Esoteric Detailing video of Bathe+ he recommends going over and reading other peoples reviews of the product.. Funny how there’s only 2 reviews of Bathe+ with the last 1 being posted 2yrs. ago. I bet there’s tons of people who know this soap is absolute garbage but are afraid to say so... Not me, I call it how I see it. And this soap is very bad, quite possibly the worst detailing product I’ve ever bought in my life next to Dr. Beasley’s Glass IQ. I’d rank them both at the very bottom.

That’s twice that I’ve made the mistake of falling for the hype. Shame on me.. From now on I’ll stick to brands with a proven track record of Quality.
Gyeon doesn’t even have a customer service phone #? I guess all the money goes straight to the bank. No more!

 

[SWETM]

You can use a strong beam from the hose also. The sio2 products often activates with as strong as can pressure water rinse and you do it panel by panel if you don't foam it on. And it can have some time to cure after rinsed of. If the temperatur is low and the moisture is also something that can take some time to get the water behavior.

 

[Eldorado2k]

You can use a strong beam from the hose also. The sio2 products often activates with as strong as can pressure water rinse and you do it panel by panel if you don't foam it on. And it can have some time to cure after rinsed of. If the temperatur is low and the moisture is also something that can take some time to get the water behavior.

I used a strong enough beam from the hose.

And just to show I gave it every chance in the world, I even dried the car, and wet the whole car Again and still nothing... It was then that I had enough and quickly laid some tape down the middle of my hood and applied some liquid sealant down on 1 side. Wipe on, wipe off. Quik and simple. And instant results!

@Gyeon. This is what beading looks like!

Real beading. Instantly.

Put Gyeon to shame...

Another thing I can’t help but notice: The package materials appear to be of the absolute lowest quality with their bottle.
Look at this cap. I don’t even have to “press down” it screws right off. And there wasn’t even a seal underneath the cap. Just wide open. I’ve never seen such an expensive product with such poor manufacturing quality. Is this what I get for the premium price? Seriously this is unacceptable.

And why does my bottle of Bathe+ look nothing like it does on their website?

They should be refunding peoples money for this. I’ll never buy Gyeon product again. I apologize if I seem a bit harsh, I just don’t like being had...

 

[goldendodo19]

Eh, was going to get this but now doesnt seem worthwhile. Seems like a lot of effort just to use a shampoo. Couldnt I just use bathe or any other non gloss enhancing shampoo and in the final stages spray on wetcoat or similar with what to me seems way less effort and probably obtain longer lasting better results?

Ive used wetcoat on a car that hadnt been waxed in 6-7 months and granted still contaminated it felt way slicker than d156 ever did.

 

[ducksfan]

You do realize that the more you post, the less I'm going to offer you for what you have left.

 

[Eldorado2k]

You do realize that the more you post, the less I'm going to offer you for what you have left.

Lol

I wouldn’t wish this stuff even on my worst enemy. A few days ago I made a comment about another forum member after I found it unbelievable that he literally threw away his California Duster... I feel like I’m eating my words, because I seriously feel like throwing this bottle in the garbage. It’ll probably be better than having to occasionally see it on my shelf and having it bring back bad memories of how bad it is.