Has anyone tried the Mequiars m105 yet.

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I am going to try it tomorrow with the rotary for the first time ever using a rotary.I do have the flex 3401 as a backup incase my rotary noobism fails.I have read nothing but great reviews with this stuff and will find out tomorrow if it lives up to its claim.........................and will post pics.
 
Plenty of times, it is easy to use. I would suggest using it with a wool pad.
 
I plan on using this with a purple wool foam pad.Do you think this will be ok.
 
I just used it with my FLEX and a LC Foamed Purple Wool Pad. It removed heavy swirls in a single pass.

Works great as a compound/heavy polish, but it dusts REALLY badly.
 
Thanks guys and the dust is no problem as my menzerna dust like crazy too.
 
Lumadar said:
Works great as a compound/heavy polish, but it dusts REALLY badly.
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Majority of times it does not dust. Few times I worked with it it did not dust on me, it did not dust on 15 or so people that attended Meguiar's Advanced Class at same time I did, it did not dust during multi-hour session I dropped by the other day, and according to person that I trust and that has used M105 for many moons before it even hit the market majority of times it does not dust on him either.

This is not to say it never dusts, any polish that has abrasive in it will eventually dust, it is just to say one can not say M105 dusts badly. That implies it as a rule. That is not correct. It is an exception, not a rule.
 
Well i used it with a white edge pad and i have never seen any polish flash as fast as m105 does.The 15 second work time was hard to get used to at first as i was trying to do a 2x2 area.I had to cut this down to a 15x15 area and would get 1 to 1 and 1/2 passes before it was done.
This stuff is incredible as it took out about 90% of the nasty swirls i had on my hood on 1 pass.I didnt want to do 2 passes so i just went with 106ff and finished it up.
Since this was my first try at using a rotary i did get quite a few buffer trails but 106ff took care of them.Sorry no pics yet but ill have them up soon.
 
Glad to here you had a posititve experience with M105 and it does flash quickly. I use it with wool and it will dust.
 
Zoran, why are you getting so worked up whether M105 dusts or not. This doesn't mean it isn't a great product. I think it is a great product but it does dust. I think it surprises people on how quickly it flashes but i dont see any problem with that. I hope you are not taking any of this as bashing the product but if it dusts it dusts, no biggie. The only thing I want out of a product if it works great and this one does, I just don't see how so many people are having a hard time using it though, maybe if they used it as designed there wouldn't be such a problem.
 
ZoranC said:
Majority of times it does not dust. Few times I worked with it it did not dust on me, it did not dust on 15 or so people that attended Meguiar's Advanced Class at same time I did, it did not dust during multi-hour session I dropped by the other day, and according to person that I trust and that has used M105 for many moons before it even hit the market majority of times it does not dust on him either.

This is not to say it never dusts, any polish that has abrasive in it will eventually dust, it is just to say one can not say M105 dusts badly. That implies it as a rule. That is not correct. It is an exception, not a rule.
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Lol, ok...thanks buddy ...I must be doing something terribly wrong then considering it flashes fairly quickly, and dusts horribly from the very get go on numerous pads and speeds. I wish I had your skills...shucks.
 
Lumadar said:
Lol, ok...thanks buddy ...I must be doing something terribly wrong then considering it flashes fairly quickly, and dusts horribly from the very get go on numerous pads and speeds. I wish I had your skills...shucks.
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No comment on your post as it is not constructive.

Instead here is a comment for the benefit of those that are interested to learn more.

I hope Kevin Brown (NXTi instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA team member, man behind "rub down" of number of infamous Alpine show vehicles, man whose work with product that became M105 outdoes almost everybody's short of actual developers) will not mind if I paraphrase him:

"Culprit of 'dust issue' with M105 is usually related to over-application of the product or polishing until the surface is dry".
 
ZoranC said:
No comment on your post as it is not constructive.

Instead here is a comment for the benefit of those that are interested to learn more.

I hope Kevin Brown (NXTi instructor, Meguiar's/Ford SEMA team member, man behind "rub down" of number of infamous Alpine show vehicles, man whose work with product that became M105 outdoes almost everybody's short of actual developers) will not mind if I paraphrase him:

"Culprit of 'dust issue' with M105 is usually related to over-application of the product or polishing until the surface is dry".
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The problem *I* see with that advice is that it really only helps if you have an endless supply of fresh pads (ie work for Meg's).

The foamed wool pads for instance get gunked up very quickly, and the duospur and "on the fly cleaning" methods both fall short.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to create a nice tutorial video so we can see how you do it to produce dust-free results? We would all certainly benefit from that... :cheers:
 
Lumadar said:
The problem *I* see with that advice is that it really only helps if you have an endless supply of fresh pads (ie work for Meg's).

The foamed wool pads for instance get gunked up very quickly, and the duospur and "on the fly cleaning" methods both fall short.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to create a nice tutorial video so we can see how you do it to produce dust-free results? We would all certainly benefit from that... :cheers:
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Actually that session from other day that I mentioned was all done with single (regularly cleaned) pad (BTW, Kevin does not work for Meguiar's and buys pads out of his own pocket).

If foamed wool pads are not working for you maybe you should change to what does work as no training will help you if you are sticking to something that is not working well together.

Of course, this is under assumption that reason for them not working well together for you is in products and not in user. Considering I keep hearing about people being very happy how M105 and foamed wool pads work together ...
 
If people are seeing it flash quickly and there is dusting they are using it correctly. When I first used it with wool I was in a rush and had dust everywhere, if you take your timeit does not dust but not that bad. The 3m wool pads I use have never once gummed up and there is minimal dusting when spurred. I agree it is in technique, but it does dust and flash quickly, but I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble using it.
 
Flashing to me is when the polish is done. I do not prime my pads, there is no need to. Also if Wolfpacker makes it by my house we are going to make some videos since there is so many different opinions on how to do this and we just want to show people the correct way. Hopefully he will be up this way next month and we can get to work on the videos on various polishes and pad combos.
 
Interesting discussion. I've only used 105 with a Purple Foamed Wool pad and (like most compounds) it dusted quite a bit more than polishes like Menzerna SIP and/or 106 (for comparison purposes only). It seems like the longer you work it, the potential to dust more goes up. Also, when you buff on edge or over a crack, it releases the freshly dried product out nof the pad. I did each section with 2 applications. The 1st was ~15 to 20 seconds (wipe off) and then reapply more product and work for ~10 seconds to refine the micro-marring. I also spurred my pad after eash section. If I remember correctly, the Meg's Sales Rep at Detail Fest used a cutting wool pad and it seemed to dust in a similar fashion it did for me. It was difficult to guage, because he was demonstrating on a hood mounted on a stand. Dust is probably easier and more noticeable when it's worked on a vehicle that has adjacent panels. By no means is this product the dustiest compound I've ever used (far from it), but I would find it difficult to use this product on an entire vehicle and not have the need to re-wash after. I love this product and I look forward to trying it in many more situations and with different pads. The strangest conception I find difficult to stomach is how some people use it as a 1-step with a medium cut foam pad and go right to LSP.

Zoran - When the Meg's people used 105 with a wool pad, did it dust just a little, or was there no dust at all?

Disclaimer: **I'm still on the learning curve with this product**
 
I have had no problems without priming the pad. Like David said it does dust alittle and you just wash off the dust and also it does not dust as bad as other products. I am also with David when people use it with a foam pad, thats were the problems are coming in. I tried it on a white, orange and green pad, it gummed a little at first but after that no problem. If someone doesn't have much experience with a rotary they will have problems with this stuff becuase it flashes quickly and also it is not meant to be used with a foam pad. David I agree again about the people that are using it as a one step is B.S. You have for follow up with a finish polish, that right there tells you the skill level. Zoran all I am is saying to and you are bringing up good points since you are breaking down a little finer than what I am saying is that it is pretty user friendly, it will dust and you need to follow up with a final polish, and lastly it is a great product. The onetime it really dusted like crazy was when I was in a rush on a Lexus and it was covered, you take your time and the dust really isn't that bad.
 
bringing this old thread back. What are people finding works well after M105? I have M83, Menzerna FP, Megs #7, Poli-seal, DG105. I could pick up something else.
 
dublifecrisis said:
bringing this old thread back. What are people finding works well after M105? I have M83, Menzerna FP, Megs #7, Poli-seal, DG105. I could pick up something else.
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You should really follow up M105 with a mid-polish like SIP, then do a final polish like 85RD or Ultrafina.
 
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