Has Anyone Tried The New And Improved Garry Dean Method?

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stilltipping3 said:
I have spoken with Garry and he is very down to earth. I have used his products and can say they are good. He is good with customer service and even giving advice. He willingly gives out his personal cell and that's a cool link right there. Say what u will but I think he is like every1 else and trying to make it for himself. If you are on these forums like I know some of you are and have never heard of the the GDWM or Garry Dean wash method then what have u been reading? These words or phrases come up in tons of posts.
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I have nothing against him at all he seems like a very good guy. I just thinks its funny calling new and improved.
 
Shortspark said:
I don't know about all this. Like I said before a few posts back, I have been washing cars in a way very similar to this since the 1950s. But I would not criticize the guy for putting it on video. Sure, he is trying to sell his product and he is using instructional videos to do so. What's wrong with that? And I really don't think he is talking to us hobbyists - and for sure not to fellow pro detailers.

My guess is that Gary is probably wanting to reach people who do not know there are a ton of detailing product options out there besides Mother's and Turtle Wax that they see at WalMart. These are the same people who may not even know the value of using microfiber towels and have no knowledge of "rinseless" or "waterless" auto washing. So what is wrong with telling them and using your product to do so? I have to assume he is smart enough not to talk down to us with this basic concept of car maintenance but there are people out there who might find these instructions and methods a revelation. And if you can make a few bucks by selling your product for your efforts of telling them and showing them then I say good for you!
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Henry Ford didn't invent the car or, really, even the Assembly Line. But he put the two together and made some improvements to each and is known as one of the greatest innovators of the 20th century. So- hey, guess it works! Take some well-known knowledge, tweak it a bit, and then promote and sell the crap out of it. Recipe for success!

To be fair though, folks that are saying he's just trying to educate the Wal-Mart producted masses; lots of guys do that including Mike Phillips and Larry Kosilla. But Mike Phillips doesn't call the two bucket wash method the "Mikey P" method (though that's a trend I think we should start).
 
anyone else want to "invent" a method?
If Garry Dean was being serious, he should have named it the Garry Dean method 2.0 :D
I think a lot of people do it this way. Personnaly, I just use a 3 washmitts to do my rinseless. do multiple panels at a time, then dry... maybe I should call this the "2shiny method" Beta-version...
 
I double stack my grit guards with the 2 bucket method for better dirt control.

thats the "gratwhitenorth method"

Now for mass YouTube videos and a solid marketing plan
 
I haven't jumped on the waterless wash method yet. I have tried it, I just don't think its the same. I had to wash a Ford F150 today. Nothing beats pressure washing out the wheel wells and undercarriage. Maybe on a really really clean car I can see waterless working for just for a quick upkeep but I'll stick to my PW and foam cannon.
 
The guys "Detail Juice" costs an arm and a leg for a Gallon size, regardless how concentrated his stuff is.
Compare to Optimum Rinseless, they are like at LEAST 2x more expensive in price.

Im not gonna bash on him, but i think he can AT LEAST make better videos than all that shaky cam work... Get a tri pod or something......
 
04Golf said:
I haven't jumped on the waterless wash method yet. I have tried it, I just don't think its the same. I had to wash a Ford F150 today. Nothing beats pressure washing out the wheel wells and undercarriage. Maybe on a really really clean car I can see waterless working for just for a quick upkeep but I'll stick to my PW and foam cannon.
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When it's 12 degrees outside and/or you don't have access to an outside hose (such as an apartment, like me; or a lot of folks shut their water supply to their exterior spigots off in the winter to prevent freezing as they are sometimes not well insulated), then waterless washing is a godsend!

That's my case. In the winter, it's how I was. I will run to the coin up and knock the brunt of the dirt off, and power wash the wheel wells and that sort of thing. Then I come home and do a waterless wash (As a power washer only goes so far unless you do a 2 bucket wash!).

I don't do the garry dean method though. I do the good old spray-on wipe-then-buff off method. I use two-sided towels (several of them). Spray a panel, gently wipe it down, top to bottom, with the fluffy side. Then flip it to the thin 'buffing' side and buff the panel to a dry shine. Takes 10 minutes (or less) to get the whole car clean (minus the time at the coin-op if necessary) and gets the car very clean! EXCEPT of course, for wheel wells and such. But it gets the majority of the car clean without a hose, a lot of effort, or spending a ton of time outside freezing to death. To me, that's where it is so useful! 6 towels does the paint, another 2 towels does the glass and another towel does the wheels. That's, consequently, just enough towels to throw into the washing machine on a 'small load'. And I find when they get tossed into the washing machine still wet with the waterless wash solution, (not allowed to dry and stain), they come out looking brand new. Even my wheel and glass towels! (I do use a MicroFiber detergent)

The waterless wash works well on waxed wheels too. Maybe not a german sports car, but a domestic plain jane sedan like my car, which has very little brake dust, it's no problem. I take a wheel/engine/door jamb only microfiber towel, and clean all of the wheels using the same spray down / wipe off method. I use the waterless wash solution instead of a wheel cleaner as it leaves no streaks behind!

All in all, I get a pretty darn clean car. Not as good as a two bucket wash, but it takes a whole lot less time (which is nice when it's below freezing!) and doesn't require a hose.
 
EvolutionDetail said:
The guys "Detail Juice" costs an arm and a leg for a Gallon size, regardless how concentrated his stuff is.
Compare to Optimum Rinseless, they are like at LEAST 2x more expensive in price.

Im not gonna bash on him, but i think he can AT LEAST make better videos than all that shaky cam work... Get a tri pod or something......
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Compared to Opti Clean, IUDJ is pretty cheap. I like his videos. No nonsense.
 
EvolutionDetail said:
The guys "Detail Juice" costs an arm and a leg for a Gallon size, regardless how concentrated his stuff is.
Compare to Optimum Rinseless, they are like at LEAST 2x more expensive in price.

Im not gonna bash on him, but i think he can AT LEAST make better videos than all that shaky cam work... Get a tri pod or something......
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Which is more expensive per-use? That's what matters more to me. For example, Pinnacle is more per gallon than several other brands of waterless wash, but because it's so concentrated, it's "ready to use" per gallon price is bargain-basement. Costs pennies to wash a car despite being $40 a gallon or whatever for the concentrate. Detailers Pro waterless wash is cheaper per gallon, but less concentrated- so in the end, it costs more per-wash than the pinnacle.

I'd rather pay $40 for a gallon that'll last me 6 months than $20 each month!
 
This has already been said, but I don't really understand the criticism of Garry Dean, who certainly doesn't need me to defend him. He's just a guy trying to help people take better care of their cars. Isn't that what everyone here is trying to do as well? Just because he also promotes his products doesn't make his method of washing a car any less effective.

And while the name of the method bothers some people, as does the fact that he didn't invent the process, there are other threads about the Garry Dean method, or GDWM, and those who participate in them know exactly what someone is talking about. Multiple towels and one bucket of no rinse solution.

I know I'm not the only one who watched GD's early videos and decided to wash my car as he originally suggested. My intention was just to find out if anyone who used the method shown in the early videos has changed to the newer method with only two steps, and in comparison, was happy with the results. I get the fact that some of you have already been doing it this way, but I thought I might get an answer from someone who has tried both methods.
 
Tough crowd. I've known Garry for a couple of years now. Met him, (Mike P., Nick, and the Ultima guys) at a detail event he put together in Tampa by USF 3+ years ago. Sure, he does his own advertising, but it is difficult to find someone more enthusiastic about detailing or helpful.
 
Sorry to say but this isn't new, I picked this up months ago from some guy on you tube.
It works great though.
Maybe he saw the same vid as I did:)
 
kbmag1 said:
Tough crowd. I've known Garry for a couple of years now. Met him, (Mike P., Nick, and the Ultima guys) at a detail event he put together in Tampa by USF 3+ years ago. Sure, he does his own advertising, but it is difficult to find someone more enthusiastic about detailing or helpful.
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I agree.


I think anyone who trashes GD is likely just jealous IMHO. The guy was able to bring his own product line to market and run a pretty successful detailing business. He got all us talking about it. I don't know the name of hardly anyone's business who posts on here - but I know Gary Dean's Premium Custom Detailing in Tampa Florida. That I know. So, he has to be doing something right. I've used the IUDJ (courtesy of Dhaval) and it's a good product.

So before anyone starts trashing GD for self promoting or what not, you have to realize that is the name of the game. I dunno. I just don't get all the hate for GD. He's a guy who was able to bring his own products to market who actually details cars himself. I know he's not the only one... But shouldn't we be supporting him? Does anyone have first hand experience GD is a poor detailer? I've never seen any reports of that. I've just seen good work in his videos.

I've never met or talked to GD. So, I have no agenda.
 
When I watched my first Garry Dean video I ended up going to his site, reading his story and was blown away! He's VERY positive and VERY committed, I see nothing wrong with that at all. As far as why its called the Garry Dean method, don't know but his name is attached to it for some reason, he's doing something right!!
 
Swan, I agree with what you said. His video is advertising for his detailing and his products. Isn't you tube a vehicle for that? I've used you tube to "search" exhaust and power adders for my car, why not detailing products.
When I regained my detailing interest, I was hesitant to buy a DA, after the earlier mentioned detail event (lettuce Park, off Fletcher in Tampa by USF), Garry encouraged me to get a DA and he would provide the "how to" use it properly and we detailed my car over 7-8 hours on a following Sunday.
I've met up with Garry a few times, although it's been 1.5 years since last spoke (how fast time goes by). I have no agenda, look how many posts I've made here as I'm an avid reader (daily) but rarely a writer.
 
Klasse Act said:
...his name is attached to it for some reason, he's doing something right!!
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He named it himself as he did his improved method to get credit for it even if not shockingly new. It is just marketing himself and his products - pure capitalism.

The simple chamois (think Absorber among many) has been renamed and remarketed (Sham Wow) many times under various names. New channels to get to a new audience (youtube is one of the latest). It is now a miracle glass cleaning towel..it was when it was the absorber.

The detailers that use youtube often have videos called "insert your name" "insert the process" method. It builds a reputation and if you are new to the hobby you associate their name with it. You would think knowing how to sheet water off a car was some recently discovered trick...
 
I bought a gal of onr and a gal of Garry deans infinite juice. Yes the onr is cheaper. u can actually buy 3 gals. of onr to 1 of Garry deans. I have found onr to not be as good. I use the GDIJ to do many things as well as the interior. I think ONR is great for its cost and like them both.
 
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