Having trouble with over spray.

[foamingcarwash]

A customer wanted to get over spray removed of her infiniti pearl white G35.
Ive attached two pictures, however they don't really show it well, its bonded to surface very well and seem that machine polish doesn't really help. Any helpful tips products would be highly appreciated.
Thank you!

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Overspray clay would be the usual first method on that, followed by the machine polish that you already tried.

 

[Mobile detail]

start with clay then I would hit it with a wipe down of a solvent. You wanna use the clay before the solvent so it doesn't round the edges of the overspray and the clay has something to grab onto. Any idea what the overspray is?

 

[DealerDetailer]

I would have to agree with everyone on the clay first, the a good polish.

Although, to me on the second photo the overspray looks like a rust color. We are sure its overspray and not rail dust (industrial fallout) by chance - just wondering.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Although, to me on the second photo the overspray looks like a rust color. We are sure its overspray and not rail dust (industrial fallout) by chance - just wondering.

So if it is rail dust--are we still claying first or doing some sort of decon?

 

[DealerDetailer]

So if it is rail dust--are we still claying first or doing some sort of decon?

True, yes we still are claying first - should have made that point. Sometimes thou with clay you need a tougher clay to remove the fallout. Although, once I did find out that clay wouldn't work and had to use a Diamondite product.

Diamondite Spray Clay™ is formulated to remove embedded contaminants from glass to create a clean, smooth appearance.

This is what I used. Says its for glass, but did a test spot on the car (which was also white) and it worked perfect. Let it soak then scrub with the sponge they give you.

But first lets try the least aggressive and clay and polish it first

 

[Setec Astronomy]

No, you misunderstood me, aren't people doing Iron-X and then claying what's left after?

 

[DealerDetailer]

No, you misunderstood me, aren't people doing Iron-X and then claying what's left after?

You bet, try somone Iron-X see what happens. Sorry about the misunderstanding...I'm more tired than I thought. I'm off to bed

PS: To OP - you said you've machined polished, did you try clay? If not I would try claying if you haven't or if you have some Iron-X start with that then clay.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

You bet, try somone Iron-X see what happens. Sorry about the misunderstanding...I'm more tired than I thought. I'm off to bed.

No, I didn't phrase very well. I'm still trying to understand the Iron-X thing, it seems people are using it at different stages in the process, so I was just trying to understand if you would Iron-X before or after clay or both.

 

[DealerDetailer]

No, I didn't phrase very well. I'm still trying to understand the Iron-X thing, it seems people are using it at different stages in the process, so I was just trying to understand if you would Iron-X before or after clay or both.

I would/do use Iron-X before, then follow with clay.

No sense in claying first when Iron-X will remove that easier for you. Then follow with claying. Lets work smarter, not harder.

 

[foamingcarwash]

You bet, try somone Iron-X see what happens. Sorry about the misunderstanding...I'm more tired than I thought. I'm off to bed

PS: To OP - you said you've machined polished, did you try clay? If not I would try claying if you haven't or if you have some Iron-X start with that then clay.

Sorry,
Let me clear that up.
-Wash of course
-Clay bar the whole vehicle. Clay helped maybe about 10 percent
-Polish the vehicle. Tried griots 4 and 2 then went to Polish PO 83 With orange pad

Perhaps I need a better claybar? The Overspray seem to be tree sap like substance. However it very hard and plastic like. It has also bonded with the surface pretty well. A
blade seemed to work, however this is a pearl white paint and too much surface to work with any sharp object. I read somewhere using plastic blade, anyone know about this?

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

A customer wanted to get over spray removed of her infiniti pearl white G35.
Ive attached two pictures, however they don't really show it well, its bonded to surface very well and seem that machine polish doesn't really help.

A foam pad on a DA Polisher won't be effective at removing any type of overspray because the foam is too gentle and will simply glide over the dots of overspray and polish them.

Now a wool pad on a rotary buffer with an aggressive compound, especially an old school gritty abrasive compound would sheer the overspray right off along with a lot of perfectly good paint.

The way to approach most overspray paint is by using detailing clay. See this video,


Video: How to remove overspray paint using detailing clay


If in fact those are iron particles then,

1. Wash and rinse the car to remove all loose dirt and road grime
2. Spray on Iron-X and let it go to work dissolving the iron particles
3. Re-wash and rinse the car
4. Clay
5. Machine polish
6. Seal with a wax, paint sealant or coating

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Sorry,
Let me clear that up.
-Wash of course
-Clay bar the whole vehicle. Clay helped maybe about 10 percent
-Polish the vehicle. Tried griots 4 and 2 then went to Polish PO 83 With orange pad

Perhaps I need a better claybar? The Overspray seem to be tree sap like substance. However it very hard and plastic like. It has also bonded with the surface pretty well. A
blade seemed to work, however this is a pearl white paint and too much surface to work with any sharp object. I read somewhere using plastic blade, anyone know about this?

Ha.... I made my post without reading page 2, thanks for adding more information.

Just like there are multiple different types of trees and bushes, there are multiple types of tree sap mist. Some Tree Sap mist will liquefy with water and wash off, other types will be just like epoxy paint overspray and be incredibly difficult to remove using clay.


I've come across some pretty tough overspray and when the bond between the overspray and the paint is strong it can be difficult to remove.

You can try plastic razor blades as this would be safer than using steel razor blades and a lot less risky to the paint but these don't always work either.

Chemically removing it is also something you can try. I've actually had good luck using a citrus based product NOT intended for removing overspray but it worked for me.


Stoner XENIT Natural Citrus Mold Cleaner

Even states on the webpage above,

Xenit contains more than five, different, high performance cleaners. Unlike most water-based citrus cleaners that are designed to lift and carry dirt, XENIT is formulated to break down the complex molecules found in sticky materials.

This MicroActive cleaning action gives XENIT unequaled abilities to loosen and dissolve difficult grime like tar, grease, gum and adhesives.

It even removes dried latex paint if accidentally dripped on carpet, flooring, or furniture. Xenit removes shoe scuffs and heel marks from from vinyl panels and greasy dirt from fabrics and upholstery.

Of course I tested it on the paint first to make sure it caused no harm and if you decide to try this you should test too. I also applied it using a terry cloth wash cloth as the nap of the terry cloth provided gentle scubbing action and do wear gloves should you try this approach.

Also, after you find a way to remove the overspray it's going to be a good idea to re-polish the car just to ensure a clear, smooth surface free from any marring or dulling from the removal process.

Good luck and let us know how it goes...

 

[shoeless89]

I've had good luck with Griot's Clay for removing overspray

 

[foamingcarwash]

Ha.... I made my post without reading page 2, thanks for adding more information.

Just like there are multiple different types of trees and bushes, there are multiple types of tree sap mist. Some Tree Sap mist will liquefy with water and wash off, other types will be just like epoxy paint overspray and be incredibly difficult to remove using clay.


I've come across some pretty tough overspray and when the bond between the overspray and the paint is strong it can be difficult to remove.

You can try plastic razor blades as this would be safer than using steel razor blades and a lot less risky to the paint but these don't always work either.

Chemically removing it is also something you can try. I've actually had good luck using a citrus based product NOT intended for removing overspray but it worked for me.


Stoner XENIT Natural Citrus Mold Cleaner

Even states on the webpage above,




Of course I tested it on the paint first to make sure it caused no harm and if you decide to try this you should test too. I also applied it using a terry cloth wash cloth as the nap of the terry cloth provided gentle scubbing action and do wear gloves should you try this approach.

Also, after you find a way to remove the overspray it's going to be a good idea to re-polish the car just to ensure a clear, smooth surface free from any marring or dulling from the removal process.

Good luck and let us know how it goes...

Thank you! and yes i will give that a try and see how it works. I will also order a better clay bar. i'll order magic ice blue clay.
I haven't fully polished the car as i was unable to remove the overspray. So just put wax to protect the paint before i can get to it again.
Thank you again and i'll update as soon as i work on her again.