Help a PC7424 noob. Made paint worse!

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hey everyone,
Ive been doing my fair-share of reading up on things here on the board in the past few weeks, but I have created a situation I cant resolve by myself.
Ive been amateur-detailing now for a few years and am familiar with many aspects of detailing, but just recently did I start using a PC.

Got some new stuff in the mail, so I decided to test it out on my daily driver (black 96 honda civic).
I washed and dried it, let it cool down, and went to work...
I was using an LC orange pad with PoorBoy's SSR2.5
Spread it around on a lower speed, then turned it up to 5 and worked it in using the suggested methods (slower, overlapping passes for a few minutes - until it turned from milky to translucent) Then i wiped it off with a mf cloth.
It looked good in the garage, but out in the sun was a different story. TONS of swirl and buffer marks, micro-marring, spider webs, you name it.
I tried using a white polishing pad with the SSR2.5 ( i dont have SSR1 to move down to) hoping that it would rid of some of the markings, and it did - but not by much.

I did some searching and reading and went back to it on two different nights to try and fix it, but no luck.

So now my paint is looking worse than it did initially, and im getting near my wits end. Help me out guys.
 
I hate to tell you this, but I think you need to get SSR1 to finish is off. Going with 2.5 is very aggressive and it will marr the paint when polishing back to life. SSR1 should remove those and you should be good to go.
 
Use a finishing pad with the appropriate finishing/much less aggressive polish like menz 106ff or 3m Ultrafina SE.
 
As offered if you are going to buy a finishing polish (and you really need both) make the commitment to Menzerna and get 106FF or Micro polish to work with your SSR 2.5.
 
So you're thinking a finishing polish will somehow fix all this?

I tried Meguiars #80 speed glaze after the 2.5 and it didnt do much..but thats obviously a glaze and not a polish
 
rem177 said:
So you're thinking a finishing polish will somehow fix all this?

I tried Meguiars #80 speed glaze after the 2.5 and it didnt do much..but thats obviously a glaze and not a polish
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Yes, a glaze won't do it. Get l06ff you won't be sorry/
 
Ok, I gotta butt in here. My son has the same car. The paint can be improved from there. I think the car can be improved with a polish with less abrasives and a lighter pad - maybe multiple passes adjusting the pressure. I think even without Mernzerna you can repair it. Ssr 1 would be fine .... have you tried it?
Handling the pc takes a knack too. Relax and don't give up. Learn to use the pc until it glides.... Glaze is not gonna do it.
 
But how did he make it "worse"? Could it be contamination between the pad and the paint?

I'm new to this, too. I'm curious why this hasn't happened to me.
 
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:::houseofbunny::: said:
But how did he make it "worse"? Could it be contamination between the pad and the paint? (Well you always want to have a properly prepared pad. I assuming he lubed it a bit before beginning.)
I'm new to this, too. I'm curious why this hasn't happened to me.
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I don't really know how it could be worse...perhaps he removed the layer of buildup from rain and such on there and got a good look at the paint's condition in the light. I have worked with ssr 2.5 on our older Plymouth van and it is terrific.
Hope he primed the pad and didn't drop it or something - nah, unlikely....
I suggest it may be he should go another pass or two. Kinda help to see it - and to have seen the before, ya know?
 
ltoman said:
I don't really know how it could be worse...perhaps he removed the layer of buildup from rain and such on there and got a good look at the paint's condition in the light. I have worked with ssr 2.5 on our older Plymouth van and it is terrific.
Hope he primed the pad and didn't drop it or something - nah, unlikely....
I suggest it may be he should go another pass or two. Kinda help to see it - and to have seen the before, ya know?
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Yes, pics would help here. I'm especially curious to know what buffer marks are suppose to look like. I'm wondering if maybe once the 2.5 did it's thing, what's left is the deeper marring and that is what he sees? A finishing polish would help to round off that stuff, diminish it.
 
:::houseofbunny::: said:
Yes, pics would help here. I'm especially curious to know what buffer marks are suppose to look like. I'm wondering if maybe once the 2.5 did it's thing, what's left is the deeper marring and that is what he sees? A finishing polish would help to round off that stuff, diminish it.
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Oh you'll know buffer marks if you see them. It is a circular pattern...it is distinctive.
 
First time I used a PC on Audi paint, it took a little time with OP. Started with a white pad but didn't do much. Then went orange, then white, then grey. Much better. Patience is the key and maybe making multiple passes especially with a PC. Constantly wipe off the polish residue and check your work before continuing.
 
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