HID lights for my ride

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I would like to get a set of HID lights for my car. I have a 2010 Nissan Maxima. I wanted to get the HID's with the car, but that ment upgrading to the sport package. The package cost an extra few thousand dollars ect.

The package came with HID's. Now my old car had HID's and my new one does not. I can't live without them!!!

I asked the dealer how much HID's might cost as a part from nissan, and he said its over 1,000 dollars per light!!.. I smell BS. Anyway, I know you can get them on ebay for less then 50 bucks, but I know the quality can be poor.

Has anyone ever used a brand ect. of HID lights they can recommend?

Thanks!
 
I hope your lights have either a D2s or D2r base bulbs or any variant of those two. I would never recommend HID conversion kits on halogen based headlight assemblies.

To answer your question, i would go for morimoto, matsushita, osram or phillips. :)
 
I have added aftermarket HID'd to halogen type (depo projectors) headlight housing on my old car which was a 2k Honda Prelude an I never had any issues with them (over a year use).

My question is do your headlights now have projectors? If it does it'll be good cause the projector will give you a great cutoff line.
Because if you don't have any projectors you could still add HID's to them BUT! All that light would scatter Meaning you'll blind oncoming traffic or worse you'll only get a visible light o like 5ft on the road which means that the halogen bulbs would light up better..

I've ordered from a site called Diodedynamics great products 1year warranty plus the ballasts are Slim (thinner) takes up less room..
Installation is just slightly higher than that of a novice..

Again you'll get many answers on this, yes you can no you can't an so on..
I myself who has done it will say YES you can..

When buying them just look for a kit that matches your bulb (stock halogen) size..

Any more questions feel free to ask.
 
Yes you will not have any issues with conversion kits, it will work definitely. What i meant is that halogen based headlight assemblies were not engineered to refract and provide a CLEAR cutoff of the beam pattern emitted by HIDs. It's more of road etiquette, respecting other road users, not that it won't work.

That's the misconception of most people, i hope you don't take offense, i'm a big fan of HIDs and love 'em, but they must be used responsibly. Halogen-based headlight assemblies have reflector and projector types, but are designed for halogens not HID technology. Halogen based projectors on HID conversion kits will still create so much glare.
 
Yes you will not have any issues with conversion kits, it will work definitely. What i meant is that halogen based headlight assemblies were not engineered to refract and provide a CLEAR cutoff of the beam pattern emitted by HIDs. It's more of road etiquette, respecting other road users, not that it won't work.

That's the misconception of most people, i hope you don't take offense, i'm a big fan of HIDs and love 'em, but they must be used responsibly. Halogen-based headlight assemblies have reflector and projector types, but are designed for halogens not HID technology. Halogen based projectors on HID conversion kits will still create so much glare.

The reason that 90% of halogen projectors do not work with HID's is because the halogen projectors are designed to primarily disperse the light on the ground while providing a cutoff. The other reason is because of the generally chrome reflectors around the projectors. If you look at a set of halogen projectors, you'll notice that the surface is textured whereas HID projectors are polished smooth. You can sand normal projectors which helps immensely as well if you don't want to buy a different set of projectors.

I'm using a pnp HID kit on my integra. Before installing it however, I removed the headlights, pulled them apart, sanded the projectors, painted the reflectors flat black, and then sanded any imperfections/reflecting lines that existed in the actual plastic lens out.

The actual light assembled post mod
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Output above cutoff line
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Output below
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And cutoff
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A quick shot pre opening the headlights with the kit a direct plug and play showing the horrid cutoff when only 10-15 feet away:

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As you can see it makes a huge difference to do it right. The biggest difference by far came from removing the lines on the plastic lenses. You can see the lines in this pic, although the reflectors were painted flat black in this set as well
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It's all in the prep work.
 
Aftermarket HID kits are not actually legal for use on any vehicle used on road. While not policed properly, you can harm other drivers while "looking cool" and could be in for a hefty fine if caught. See sites like NHSTA and DOT.

I would look at junkyards and Ebay for a factory set complete with lamps, ballasts and such from a wreck. These often will be a fraction of the cost of originals thru Nissan and offer the complete and correct package to assure proper use and legality.
 
Aftermarket HID kits are not actually legal for use on any vehicle used on road. While not policed properly, you can harm other drivers while "looking cool" and could be in for a hefty fine if caught. See sites like NHSTA and DOT.

It is actually illegal to install an HID system on any car which did not come from the factory with them. This includes instances such as this which other vehicles of the same make/model came with it, but it is illegal for anyone but a licensed dealer to install an HID system on his vehicle as his actual VIN did not come with a system.
 
Well, I guess I am not too worried about legality. According to the dealer, the actual headlamps have the same part number so the reflector should be the same. So any HID kit should work. Anyone who has a maxima 09 - 10 knows how had the headlights are. It's better to be a bit illegal then to drive around with your high beams on all the time.
 
Since they are the same part number and are projector lights, than a simple plug and play kit would work. Just get the proper bulb size and make sure to wear rubber gloves when installing them.
 
It is actually illegal to install an HID system on any car which did not come from the factory with them. This includes instances such as this which other vehicles of the same make/model came with it, but it is illegal for anyone but a licensed dealer to install an HID system on his vehicle as his actual VIN did not come with a system.

One of the reason for the after market kits being illegal is because they don't have the sensors that will auto level the lights. When you watch as a car that had them installed as a dealer option, you see the lights move when they are turned on, that way when you're driving uphill, they are not glaring in to on coming traffic, or the rear view mirror of the car in front of you.

BTW: If they did not come from the factory as an installed item, they are illegal....simple as that.

With that being said, I have installed them on my car with the projector lens. I use the 5000K lights, they look more like the factory than after market. 4300K is what comes from the factory and they have a slight tinge of blue. Anything beyond the 5000K, IMO looks fake and when they start enforcing the law, I'm sure will get you pulled over. Mine cost me $80 and took me 45 mins to install.
 
It is actually illegal to install an HID system on any car which did not come from the factory with them. This includes instances such as this which other vehicles of the same make/model came with it, but it is illegal for anyone but a licensed dealer to install an HID system on his vehicle as his actual VIN did not come with a system.

you are very correct. I however know that most considering this upgrade can harm other drivers without care, and why I would suggest "if" your making this leap aftermarket to "at least" consider the original factory upgrade if made. At least it was designed to work properly with that automobile in that setting if all the parts are exchanged.

Well, I guess I am not too worried about legality. According to the dealer, the actual headlamps have the same part number so the reflector should be the same. So any HID kit should work. Anyone who has a maxima 09 - 10 knows how had the headlights are. It's better to be a bit illegal then to drive around with your high beams on all the time.

I am going to come off as extremely rude so take note, you DONT have a right to put my family in harms way to make your car look cool. If you did not buy a factory HID or your ride did not come with HID's then consider changing bulbs at most to get that cool blue look.

Your gonna hurt someone with a mistake that can take an overwhelming ripple to many families and other people. These lights are dangerous to oncoming traffic and just because you like it doesnt mean that impared driver or senior citizen or just a plain day light driver can quickly reduce focus on your glare and the next person they harm might just be your loved one.

(Off soap box)
 
you are very correct. I however know that most considering this upgrade can harm other drivers without care, and why I would suggest "if" your making this leap aftermarket to "at least" consider the original factory upgrade if made. At least it was designed to work properly with that automobile in that setting if all the parts are exchanged.



I am going to come off as extremely rude so take note, you DONT have a right to put my family in harms way to make your car look cool. If you did not buy a factory HID or your ride did not come with HID's then consider changing bulbs at most to get that cool blue look.

Your gonna hurt someone with a mistake that can take an overwhelming ripple to many families and other people. These lights are dangerous to oncoming traffic and just because you like it doesnt mean that impared driver or senior citizen or just a plain day light driver can quickly reduce focus on your glare and the next person they harm might just be your loved one.

(Off soap box)


Again, I asked the dealer about HID's. He said there is no real difference between the HID system in the Max SV and the aftermarket. They do not dim, they do not move. They are fixed. He said maybe in some upper model cars they do all that fancy stuff, but not in a regular car.

I do not want to look "cool". They have a longer throw with their light. Any HID has a longer throw. They do not send light everywhere if your light unit itself is able to direct the light and cut off the light in an appropriate manor. There are plenty of people I know with HID lights that are aftermarket that are still better from oncoming traffic then some of the new BMW's ect.. Some of those lights are so ridiculously bright; they blind the crap out of you. Especially the ones the move with the steering wheel. They steer the light right into your eyes around a bend. Now for people who dont have the projectors and proper cutoff for the light, yes.. That is dumb. Because it sends light flying everywhere. I don't think that is right.

For my safety, I need to be able to see a longer distance. If you read about the Maxima, there headlamps are bad. Unless you have a very bright light, you basically need to keep your high beams on all the time, and I think that’s worse then a moderately brighter HID light. Im also not going to pay 60 dollars for silver stars that burn out ever 30 miles.

Aftermarket HIDs get a bad rep because of the people who think it looks cool. I would like to have a bright headlight that do not interfere with other traffic, but also allows me to drive with some confidence at night. Like any modification to a car, it need proper adjustment ect. I just don’t see the problem with the lights installed properly. As they will still probably be more dim and less protruding then that of a BMW, Benz, ect..

I also think BMWs and Benz use a 50 W HID, the most I can get is 35; granted the BMW and Benz adjust there wattage on some factors, they wont ever get “more dim” then any standard aftermarket HID.

The lights are truly bad. I get more light with an LED mag light
 
you are very correct. I however know that most considering this upgrade can harm other drivers without care, and why I would suggest "if" your making this leap aftermarket to "at least" consider the original factory upgrade if made. At least it was designed to work properly with that automobile in that setting if all the parts are exchanged.



I am going to come off as extremely rude so take note, you DONT have a right to put my family in harms way to make your car look cool. If you did not buy a factory HID or your ride did not come with HID's then consider changing bulbs at most to get that cool blue look.

Your gonna hurt someone with a mistake that can take an overwhelming ripple to many families and other people. These lights are dangerous to oncoming traffic and just because you like it doesnt mean that impared driver or senior citizen or just a plain day light driver can quickly reduce focus on your glare and the next person they harm might just be your loved one.

(Off soap box)

This is the same reason why i hate being on the opposite lane of a car with a hid conversion kit. you can see, but we can't..very very very dangerous, especially on our country's extremely narrow roads.

Anyway, if you really need and want an HID upgrade...i hope you do it right by doing a retrofit. Visit this site - The Retrofit Source online: headlight upgrades for all applications

You can PM me if you need more information on how to accomplish it.
 
look around or even go to a body shop and ask if they can oreder them for you at their cost i know the shop that i worked for did it for customers but would charge like 20 bucks to do it. worth it considering you save a bunch.
 
btw factory cost on hid's are around that price, we had oredered some for a bmw 745i and they were over 2000.00 for the set but i think the shop paid like 1600 for them
 
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