Home-Made Swirl Light (Sun Gun)...under $30

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Whats up everyone. Im kind of excited about this so i had to post about it.

I read a write up a few weeks back on detailingworld about a home made sun gun. Basically you take a cordless 3/8" 14.4 volt cordless drill...pop it open, remove the chuck/gears/motor...implant an extremely bright light, like the one found on the sun gun. Wire it up...close it back up and bingo, sun gun.

Well it looked so easy, and effective...i went on the hunt to find the right bulb and bulb holder...as well as a cheap drill. Well...i got the bulb, about $11 shipped, and the bulb holder/wiring harness for $3 shipped. Then found someone with a stockpile of used drills. I ended up getting 6 batteries, two drills and and a couple of chargers for the price of shipping. The motors were shot and these were all in his "I can't get rid of these" box lol...but the batteries hold a charge and the trigger worked on them so they were perfect for what i needed....

except one hitch in this, they were 1/2" chuck drills...bigger opening, which meant the bulb wouldn't fit as well. But for $16 for all those drills/batteries, i had to try it...so here's how it went

This is what i started with after my package finally arrived. I had the bulb and teh connector, and the drills finally made it here :) Im the MAN

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Wont be sort on power thats for sure!

And the bulb and holder:

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First things first...gotta crack this baby open, let the surgery begin:

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You'll need some Allen wrenches...well really just one, mine was 2.5 mm i believe for these guys. Just be careful if you end up with an old drill like i did...these screw rust...one was stripped cause it was so rusted....and to drill it straight through...but the other screws were enough to hold it tight when i reassembled it.


Here is what you see when you pop it open:

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So basically, you have your trigger assembly...you'll want that to stay...the motor (silver piece) and the chuck and gears (two pieces infront of the silver piece)

All the stuff up top, from the motor moving forward have gotta go!

The gears and chuck just come right out, but the motor is wired in:

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The red wire on this one was a bit frayed so i made sure to cut below it to get to all good wire. If you buy the bulb holder, you wont need much wire because the holder comes with about 4" or 5" of wire...if you're going to wire this directly to the bulb however you'll want to cut the wires as close to the motor as possible so you make sure you have enough wire.

I really suggest just getting the holder, its cheap and holds the bulb to make life easier when you're trying to position it in the drill. So now, time for snip snip.

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Motor removed.

Now at this point...take note of two things on your drill...first...how the trigger set up sets into the casing. Secondly, the drive/reverse button that all drills have...is a separate piece...Obviously it lines up with the hole in the drill casing so that the button is sticking out the side so the user can push it, but it also has a very small tab that sets in the top of the trigger. This is something you want to make sure stays in place if you're going to keep the reverse/drive button still. It connects to a slot that swivels (you'll see it, sorry no picture up close of it). It isn't NEEDED if you keep your drill in 'drive' and then reassemble it....but id keep it there just incase something happens and your drill changes back to 'reverse'...then you have to take it all apart again because the trigger only turns the light on when its in "Drive".

Not a big thing, just a note is all.

So, since this thing originally was a drill with GEARS it of course had its fair share of grease in it (as im sure you see). So i removed the trigger assembly and did a little scrubbing with toothbrush, soap and wiped it with some shop towels.

Nice and clean now:

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Plus i kinda figured, hot bulb...grease...not a good combo...don't know if it would ignite anything but my sis said this was going to be a fire hazard lmao...so i thought id take every precaution...plus i just like things clean.

Next, the bulb. It just has 2 prongs kinda like a fluorescent light...the pop into the holder...and then you strip the casing away from the wires coming from the trigger in the drill...put the black wire to one wire coming from the light...and the red wire coming from the other wire from the light...twist them and use some electrical tap to hold them together.

The other option is to just get one of those butt connectors i think they're called. You put one wire in one end and another wire in the other end and just squeeze them closed with pliers, but i couldn't find any..electrical tape works perfect though.

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Thats our bulb :dblthumb2:

Now here is where i had to get creative. You see because i was messing with a 1/2 chuck drill...the hole was much too big for the bulb to set into it snugly. SO i had to make something that would hold it.

I tried a couple things at first, thought i had it when i cut some foam weather stripping...and made it into a circle to fit into the drill opening. Then i was just going to push the bulb into the stripping, which was nice and snug...rig something to hold it in place (hot glue a couple holders) and bam im done. Well..this bulb gets HOT, FAST. Especially the back part near the connection. Soooo, in short..it started smoking (fire hazard like my sis said hahaha) because it was melting the weather stripping.

Just wanted to throw that out there to show my situation wasn't a 1,2,3 you're done. But if you had a 3/8 inch drill, it shoulda been a 30 minute job as long as you dont get a messed up screw you have to drill out!

BUT, i had come this far...i was not about to give up! So i started looking around thinking, what would make a good holder? Something that will keep this thing sung in the opening of the drill, but wont melt.

And then i saw the perfect piece for t he job, it was with me all along. The switch on the top of the drill that changes the clutch in the drill from low gear to high gear. Wellll i surely didn't need it anymore! So, out came the tin snips and i cut it into about 3 smaller pieces. Hot glued them onto the opening of the drill (this took a few times...having to adjust where the pieces were and how the bulb set onto them, had to make sure it was tight enough to hold it but wouldn't hurt the bulb either).

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If you look closely, there are two black pieces around the rim of the bulb...they actually had little groves, almost like they were made for what i was trying to do lol. So the lip of the bulb set right into them. It was still a bit loose when i put the other half of the casing on...so i hot glued another piece of to the other part of the casing (not shown in the pic above) to give it a little more snugness. Then put my screws back in to hold it in place.

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You can see the third piece of plastic (black) at about 5 o'clock if you will...just to the right of the other piece of plastic shown in the previous picture. It held the bulb snug and the reason i didn't need one up to is because the drill case itself had little 'grooves' and the lip of the top of the bulb sat right into one of the grooves. It was snug...but not so tight it would hurt the bulb. This bulb was pretty tough too so that helped with letting me add a little extra tightness to it.

Now its time to test it out...this thing is BRIGHT.

Admittedly this one doesn't look as cool as the 3M one, but for $400+ bucks saved, i say its a good trade. The drill was kinda beat up, though i cleaned it as best i could...and it looks a little funny with the top clutch switch gone, but i guess that just helps keep the bulb cooler...thats what i say anyway!

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In the above photo this is with ALL lights off and no flash. The beam was actually about 2x as wide as shown here but i wanted to get the light itself in the photo too.

Now, the real test..how well does it show swirls?!?

Well, you tell me

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Again this was in a pitch black garage..it was the only light i was using...worked pretty good dont ya think? Plus if a helicopter is doing a search and rescue and its light goes out, it can borrow mine hahaha!

So, it took more work than i anticipated due to the 1/2" drill size, but with a little thinking outside the box, i got it to work. The nice part is the battery pack serves as a great stand when im not using the light..it has a good weight to it but not TOO heavy to where you'd wear yourself out from using it (note again its a 14.4 Volt NOT 18 or higher, that would be too much power and burn your bulb out prematurely).

All in all, cost me just shy of $30...and i have 5 back up batteries (way more than i need) and a drill set to make a SECOND one for Dani (my sis). I feel kinda silly just dropping $30 on a 150 lumen Craftsman flashlight and another $20 on rechargeable AAA batteries, but its still a very good flashlight and much more compact than this guy...great for tight spots or under a car. But for swirls...or for situations where i need BIG light...this is my new baby :)
 
Good idea and great writeup!! I did a quick google search and found out that bulb is halogen. Would any halogen that's bright enough be good for swirls ? B/c I see all the swirl finder lights on AG are LED.
 
not bad job for a DIY..I just use this
Shop Stanley Halogen 1 Million Series Rechargeable Spotlight at Lowes.com
I hate using it though because it shines so bright I see stuff that you cant even see on the brightest of days under the sun..so its more of a headache then anything.

Yeah this is surely bright but i like seeing what im working with. The other thing i wanted it for is when im detailing OUTSIDE...obviously the indirect light from the sun makes the Brinkmann and LED flashlights much less effective...this thing however should still show effectively just hwo good or bad the paint condition is

Good idea and great writeup!! I did a quick google search and found out that bulb is halogen. Would any halogen that's bright enough be good for swirls ? B/c I see all the swirl finder lights on AG are LED.

Yup its halogen. Im not sure, this one i got is a 35 degree angle i believe so it casts a pretty broad range of light, but when held away from the paint it shows swirls well without drowning it in too much light. AG has the brinkmann dual Xenon light (as seen in one of the photos i have towards the beginning of the write up).

Works good but doesn't hold its charge as long after a lot of uses...and doesn't sit upright like the one i did...which can be a pain sometimes. Its a good light but i like mine better. Again not my initial idea, detailingworld is where i found the initial idea...but i havent seen anyone else alter a 1/2" chuck size yet...though i dont want to do it again lol...but since i have a 2nd drill sitting there im sure i'm going to :)
 
Excellent improvise Will.
Awsome write-up,thank you for posting!!
 
Well if you read the reviews it looks like the battery dies out after 3 months or so

I read the reviews,I was more/less asking 05xrunner if he has had other issues or if he indeed notice the minimal battery life.
 
Props for your ingenuity but intensity of light isn't the whole story from what my research led me to believe. Although a bright halogen may work it's my understanding that a xenon bulb emits a light which most closely replicates the light waves emitted from bright sunlight. That's what sold me on the Brinkmann dual xenon swirl finder which sells for about the same price as your project. That said, anyone who knows better please feel welcome to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Props for your ingenuity but intensity of light isn't the whole story from what my research led me to believe. Although a bright halogen may work it's my understanding that a xenon bulb emits a light which most closely replicates the light waves emitted from bright sunlight. That's what sold me on the Brinkmann dual xenon swirl finder which sells for about the same price as your project.

Well thats why i didnt just get any halogen...i got the 'natural daylight bulb'. Which if you read this thread The Ultimate Home-Made swirl spotting torch - Detailing World i think later on (in the pages in the 50's i believe) they talked about why this bulb was ideal and close to natural sunlight. I like the brinkman, used it for quite a while now...but when being used outside or in situations where lighting isn't perfect...or on lighter colors...it can sometimes be a bit tricky.
 
Ok. I wasn't aware of the differences in halogen bulbs. Good to know.
 
I think it's brilliant.....in more ways than one :xyxthumbs:
 
Good conversion job, Ol' Buddy! Nice way to save a few bucks ($370.00) :)
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This is how I made mine...In part, my reply to this thread:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ection-lights-car-detailing-5.html#post576882

"I'm going to build mine (from your step-by-step instructions links ) with the same halogen lamp that the 3M Sun Gun uses....the 35w color-corrected, full-spectrum, halogen lamp, along with a miniature ceramic lamp base, when the parts arrive.

Since I'm going to use an old drill I had lying around, and the batteries and charger are no longer usable, I'm going to hard-wire it with a 120v-12v convertor (from an old computer set-up) with a 30ft cord length"
.

Total Cost (USD): $10.93

-Drill(with carrying case)...............$ 00.00
-Replacement Cord....................... 00.00
-Halogen Lamp............................. 7.95
-Lamp Base (socket, optional)......... 2.98


"When I find a really cheap-priced drill, I'll make a more portable one with the 12v battery/120v-12v set-up. I'll just have to get another lamp base. May try it with the 50w lamp for comparison sake, though".

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I saved $389.00. :D

:)

Bob
 
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Ok. I wasn't aware of the differences in halogen bulbs. Good to know.

Quite a few indeed!


The 3M Sun Gun uses 3M's patented 35w, 12v, 36 degree angle, with a mr16 gu5.3 lamp base.

:)

Bob
 
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I just got this flashlight (which works off of the Ryobi 18v "ONE" batteries that my drill and other Ryobi accessories run off of.)

P716 One+ Xenon 18-Volt Spotlight-P716 at The Home Depot

It seems to me like it's going to be plenty bright, and white enough (if that really is a positive in being able to see imperfections,) to be able to allow me to see imperfections when I'm outside on an overcast day or in the shade. I'm new to all of this and have only compounded/polished my own car one time - done without a proper light and therefore it came okay but not perfect because I couldn't actually see the result until the next day when the sun was shining - so I don't know if this will be optimal...but I know it's bright enough to light paint up even though I'm out in the daylight. And it's Xenon - whatever that is - which is what the Brinkman is said to be as well.
 
I wonder why they only give a 1/5 rating for quality for this unit?
i have had it for over a year..its battery doesnt hold a full blast of light long..you cant hold the trigger for more then 30sec at a time before it starts to dim..but if you let it sit for a few mins its just as bright..I have gone weeks without charging it and it still shines well for short burst..you cant go trucking though the woods finding your way with it..if it was the LED version it would probably last alot longer..but for using it as a swirl light..is there any need for it to be turned on for long periods of time when you are just checking your work here and there.
 
Quite a few indeed!


The 3M Sun Gun uses 3M's patented 35w, 12v, 36 degree angle, with a mr16 gu5.3 lamp base.

:)

Bob

From what I remember the bulb isnt whats patented in the 3m sun gun it was the electronics or something else as i remember it has an over drive feature. I cant exactly remember what it was as its been a few months since i read that thread.

You can buy the same exact bulbs the 3m gun uses for only a few dollars.

::EDIT:

I stand corrected the bulb is patented. Here is the thread I book marked on it.

The Ultimate Home-Made swirl spotting torch - Detailing World
 
Ok. I wasn't aware of the differences in halogen bulbs. Good to know.

Dont feel alone, i wasn't either until i started reading into this :)

I think it's brilliant.....in more ways than one :xyxthumbs:

lol thanks man, glad you like it:)

Good conversion job, Ol' Buddy! Nice way to save a few bucks ($370.00) :)
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This is how I made mine...In part, my reply to this thread:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ection-lights-car-detailing-5.html#post576882

"I'm going to build mine (from your step-by-step instructions links ) with the same halogen lamp that the 3M Sun Gun uses....the 35w color-corrected, full-spectrum, halogen lamp, along with a miniature ceramic lamp base, when the parts arrive.

Since I'm going to use an old drill I had lying around, and the batteries and charger are no longer usable, I'm going to hard-wire it with a 120v-12v convertor (from an old computer set-up) with a 30ft cord length"
.

Total Cost (USD): $10.93

-Drill(with carrying case)...............$ 00.00
-Replacement Cord....................... 00.00
-Halogen Lamp............................. 7.95
-Lamp Base (socket, optional)......... 2.98


"When I find a really cheap-priced drill, I'll make a more portable one with the 12v battery/120v-12v set-up. I'll just have to get another lamp base. May try it with the 50w lamp for comparison sake, though".

____________________________________________________


I saved $389.00. :D

:)

Bob


Yeah just a FEW. So you actually did yours with a hardwire..or are you still just planning on doing it? How did it turn out if you did it?

I just got this flashlight (which works off of the Ryobi 18v "ONE" batteries that my drill and other Ryobi accessories run off of.)

P716 One+ Xenon 18-Volt Spotlight-P716 at The Home Depot

It seems to me like it's going to be plenty bright, and white enough (if that really is a positive in being able to see imperfections,) to be able to allow me to see imperfections when I'm outside on an overcast day or in the shade. I'm new to all of this and have only compounded/polished my own car one time - done without a proper light and therefore it came okay but not perfect because I couldn't actually see the result until the next day when the sun was shining - so I don't know if this will be optimal...but I know it's bright enough to light paint up even though I'm out in the daylight. And it's Xenon - whatever that is - which is what the Brinkman is said to be as well.

Ive never used that light so ic an't say but it should surely help as opposed to NO light. This was so cheap and easy i had no problems with it. If you hit garage type forums like.. garagejournal.com they have a WTB and Classified section...thats how i found mine....just be sure to state you need 3/8 inch lol. Im sure there are other tool/garage forums that offer the same thing..good way to find cheap tools. :dblthumb2:
 
I'm gonna build one like you've got (the sungun)...that sounds like a proven winner, the one I bought might not be.
 
Given detailingworld is in the U.K....

Is this the bulb? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002GS4GE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A24U7YTI6UD0QV

And is this the holder?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IA63HC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AH11RO2QDRFZI

The above bulb says it's a 36 degree angle...I'd imagine that either doesn't make a difference or when everyone is referring to 35 degree bulbs they're just rounding the 36 down a bit. And the holder looks like it's universal for a bunch of different bulb styles.
 
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