How important is durability to you?

[CleanIT]

FK 1000P looks good. I've read good things about it.

 

[PaulMys]

The older I get, the more important
the durability of LSPs becomes. Here’s
one of my ‘definitions’ of durability…

•Assuming a vehicle with a BC/CC paint
system has just received an LSP-application…
then, going forward: the less I have to touch
that LSP, in order to maintain that “just LSP’ed
look”, the better.


For example…Back in April, 2015:
•After doing all of the pre-LSP steps I like
for all our vehicles to undergo (wash/dry;
correction; “pure-polishing”/glaze; etc.)…

-I then applied one layer of FK 1000P (aka:
FK BWM 101) to our 2015 model year vehicle.
[Note: Since then, I have only used Meguiar’s
D114, along with edgeless MF-Towels, as the
sole maintenance products/tools.]

-That same layer of FK1000P—initially applied
six and one third years ago—is still going strong.


In summary:
The above mentioned fantastic car-washing
products/tools, notwithstanding…FK1000P:
Now that’s what I call a durable LSP



Bob

I have often wanted to pull the proverbial "trigger" on FK100P.

Mostly due to your glowing testimonies, Bob.

But after reading this, the FK will be arriving at my residence post-haste.

It will, however, have to prove itself with an Aaron Burr vs. Alexander Hamilton type duel with Collinite 476........:argue:

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

For me durability is a sign of quality. If the environment can shed it away quickly then how mch protection is really their.

Thats why I like ceramic (true) coatings. If I don’t feel like LSP’ing in winter I don’t need to and then in the summer if I eant extra bling I can just top it.

Al the while getting one of the best forms of protection.


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[Desertnate]

They don’t require any extra care. People think they do buts it’s a myth. It’s no different than using a wax or sealant. Just longer durability, longevity and better self cleaning.

I wish we could make this a big flashing banner somewhere.

 

[Sleper]

For me durability is not important for my own vehicles as i take care of them like they are my babies but i do detailing on the side and for that it is very important as my customers (most are repeat) love the product and it brings them back my $0.02

 

[DetailZeus]

At the moment it depends on what part of the car we're talking about. I hate doing rims so they get coated because I want something that'll last as long as possible. Paint is the opposite, I want something I can slop on after every wash whether its hot, cold, humid or dry and it goes on easy and won't streak. The daily drivers get an annual light polish with an AIO so there's a clean slate every year. I will say a little voice in my head keeps telling me to try a coating lite but I've vowed to use up all these spray products I have first...

 

[Azure]

I personally think coatings are overrated. To me...if they can't stop water spots, then they really aren't that much better than a good wax/sealant. Another reason for me is that it is permanent. If I have an area where the coating didn't take well or maybe you get a blemish/scratch, then you'll have to remove the coating in that area. When you polish off the coating on the affected panel and reapply the coating, what if it looks different? I just don't think it's worth it. I actually enjoy waxing or applying a sealant to my paint anyway, so that's a reason.

 

[Kamakaz1961]

IMO, durability is the least important to me. WHY? Because I love detailing my ride. I still think the BEST LSP is an excellent carnauba wax. I us a spray wax for maintenance. I have done the ceramic coating and went back to wax. Additionally, my ride is a garage queen.

I bought her in 2012 for my birthday and still have her. It's my avatar. I still haven't found a ride worth giving her up for. They no longer make the Shelby GT350R. The new Mach 1 is a possibility, however, $65,000 - $70,000 is a big number, especially if my ride is paid off too.

KEEP ON ROCKING!

 

[opie2]

I wish we could make this a big flashing banner somewhere.

Agreed!!

All my future Vehicles will be coated. The longer-lasting durability and ease of cleaning by far out perform any other lsp.

I coated a vehicle a couple months ago for a friend. they just told me they love how the paint looks like glass. And they swear it gets shinier every time he cleans it, he said jokingly lol


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[Prange]

The older I get, the more important
the durability of LSPs becomes. Here’s
one of my ‘definitions’ of durability…

•Assuming a vehicle with a BC/CC paint
system has just received an LSP-application…
then, going forward: the less I have to touch
that LSP, in order to maintain that “just LSP’ed
look”, the better.


For example…Back in April, 2015:
•After doing all of the pre-LSP steps I like
for all our vehicles to undergo (wash/dry;
correction; “pure-polishing”/glaze; etc.)…

-I then applied one layer of FK 1000P (aka:
FK BWM 101) to our 2015 model year vehicle.
[Note: Since then, I have only used Meguiar’s
D114, along with edgeless MF-Towels, as the
sole maintenance products/tools.]

-That same layer of FK1000P—initially applied
six and one third years ago—is still going strong.


In summary:
The above mentioned fantastic car-washing
products/tools, notwithstanding…FK1000P:
Now that’s what I call a durable LSP



Bob

Two coats of FK1000p in the spring and two more in the fall, including the wheels. Since I’ve been using the BOSS Surface Wash and PolyGloss, that’s all I’ll do 2-3 times monthly. I’ll do rinseless washes in-between the full Boss washes. That’s from April to maybe November. In the winter months, I’ll go through the touchless weekly. The FK lasts until spring.

 

[FUNX650]

Two coats of FK1000p in the spring and
two more in the fall, including the wheels.

Since I’ve been using the BOSS Surface
Wash and PolyGloss, that’s all I’ll do 2-3
times monthly. I’ll do rinseless washes
in-between the full Boss washes.

That’s from April to maybe November.
In the winter months, I’ll go through the
touchless weekly. The FK lasts until spring.

Allow me to cheer your experiencing
the glad tidings, that FK1000P brings
to the (detailing) table. :cheers:


Bob

 

[Prange]

FK1000p is the best $17.00 I’ve ever spent. And a tin lasts for years.

 

[CleanIT]

The water repellency of the FK1000p looks top notch.

 

[The Guz]

I personally think coatings are overrated. To me...if they can't stop water spots, then they really aren't that much better than a good wax/sealant. Another reason for me is that it is permanent. If I have an area where the coating didn't take well or maybe you get a blemish/scratch, then you'll have to remove the coating in that area. When you polish off the coating on the affected panel and reapply the coating, what if it looks different? I just don't think it's worth it. I actually enjoy waxing or applying a sealant to my paint anyway, so that's a reason.

I can't recall if you have used any type of coatings before.

Another reason for me is that it is permanent. If I have an area where the coating didn't take well or maybe you get a blemish/scratch, then you'll have to remove the coating in that area. When you polish off the coating on the affected panel and reapply the coating, what if it looks different?

Well first off coatings are not permanent. They are semi-permanent. Only if spot correcting as polishing is imparting gloss. The entire panel needs to be polished but that is not such a big deal. It will blend in nicely at that point.

 

[Desertnate]

I personally think coatings are overrated. To me...if they can't stop water spots, then they really aren't that much better than a good wax/sealant.

I really wonder where the water spotting problems come from. Have you experienced them personally? Which coating?

I've been using coatings for 6~7 years on every vehicle in our family fleet. There have been 6 different coatings from 5 manufacturers. I've not once experience any water spotting issues so far. I simply apply the coating and keep them clean by washing every 2~4 weeks time/weather permitting.

 

[Azure]

I can't recall if you have used any type of coatings before.



Well first off coatings are not permanent. They are semi-permanent. Only if spot correcting as polishing is imparting gloss. The entire panel needs to be polished but that is not such a big deal. It will blend in nicely at that point.

No, I haven't used a coating before. I have seriously considered it, especially a product for the wheels. So with that, I'll say my opinion is from others experiences. I understand that is not ideal lol. Friends that I've known that always get their cars polished and coated often will still have water spots on their cars after they have washed them. I've read many forum threads where it has been mentioned that coatings won't keep your car from getting water spots. The water spotting that I often get is from hard water via a sprinkler system or washing the car in the sun, etc. Water at my house is generally around 400-450ppm of TDS, and I have to wash without shade. I'd hop on the coating train if hard water spots would wipe off with a drying aid or similar. The reason I call them permanent is because they have to wear off over time or be polished off. They don't wash off after several washes etc. I understand what you are saying about semi-permanent, though.

 

[Azure]

I really wonder where the water spotting problems come from. Have you experienced them personally? Which coating?

I've been using coatings for 6~7 years on every vehicle in our family fleet. There have been 6 different coatings from 5 manufacturers. I've not once experience any water spotting issues so far. I simply apply the coating and keep them clean by washing every 2~4 weeks time/weather permitting.

Based on reading others posts over the years, I'm assuming my hard water at my house will create water spots on my car if it was protected with a coating, like it does with waxes or sealants. like I mentioned above, I'd join the club if I knew a coating would keep hard water from spotting on my paint.

 

[CleanIT]

It's a tough sell with products being so good now. Cars do clean up easier with a coating though, which is nice.

 

[The Guz]

No, I haven't used a coating before. I have seriously considered it, especially a product for the wheels. So with that, I'll say my opinion is from others experiences. I understand that is not ideal lol. .

Then stop listening to your friends or others lol. You won't know until you choose one and experience the journey of a coating. Or at least apply it to one area and see how it holds up over say a year.

Friends that I've known that always get their cars polished and coated often will still have water spots on their cars after they have washed them.

Too many factors on how they got these water spots. Did they wash in direct sun? Did they miss a spot? Do they leave their cars too dirty where rain is going to cause a problem when the sun comes out? And the list goes on.

I've read many forum threads where it has been mentioned that coatings won't keep your car from getting water spots.

The potential is always there. Does not mean it will happen every time.

The water spotting that I often get is from hard water via a sprinkler system or washing the car in the sun, etc. Water at my house is generally around 400-450ppm of TDS, and I have to wash without shade. I'd hop on the coating train if hard water spots would wipe off with a drying aid or similar. The reason I call them permanent is because they have to wear off over time or be polished off. They don't wash off after several washes etc. I understand what you are saying about semi-permanent, though.

No product is going to stop water spotting from a sprinkler.

Are you washing with a pressure washer or a garden hose? By the way water spots come off during the wash process with a drying aid. This is not speaking for water spots that have already been on the paint. I am referring to the ones that may happen during the wash and drying process.

Yvan made this video on water spots which is interesting.

 

[MIsnowman]

Like mentioned above by several guys, I like the durability in the winter. And, it is also nice to know that what you use can survive the summer months/hot sun.

Collinite fits those bills for me perfectly. Once in the Spring, and once in the Fall. I have no problem applying an LSP 2 times a year.

In fact, of the 4 major steps (De-con, Wash, Machine polish, LSP) the application of the LSP is by far the most relaxing/enjoyable for me.

I agree. Collinite is amazing for the winter! I use that on my sled trailer and it holds up great, even after being drug through the salt all winter long. I wash it after every trip and then reapply 476 before I put it back in the barn in the spring. The trailer is seven years old now and still looks better than the day it was new.