How many people are interested in learning how to wet sand?

[Jimmy Vegas]

I am definitely interested in learning. I've been toying with the idea of going to a junkyard and getting a deck lid to practice correction, sanding, painting and finishing on. Just a skill set I would like to have. (And there is a spot on my Chevelle that does need it.)

 

[andy0902]

That's the Book! I am getting ready to do a full paint correction on my 13 BMW 650iXdrive GC (Black Sapphire Metallic). I would never have been able to do that without your book and the help of this forum. I used to wash my white Altima with a truck brush once a month whether or not it needed it. Now I have about half the products you sell here to use. After all, Black is a career, not a color.

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Congrats on the BMW Andy!

Perhaps put together a Show 'N Shine and share on the outcome of your work.

 

[Jaretr1]

#1 and 2# for me. Just like any skill, its better to have it than not.

 

[andy0902]

Thanks for the encouragement, Mike. Later this fall I am going to do a full paint correction on it with Pinnacle swirl remover and finishing polish and Das Original (3401) I will take lots of pics and post. I had pretty good results on the top and trunk deck and I think I am ready to do the whole car. I have been putting Pinnacle Souvran paste wax on, but I am thinking about a ceramic coating. Any suggestions?

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

That's the Book!

I am getting ready to do a full paint correction on my 13 BMW 650iXdrive GC (Black Sapphire Metallic).

I would never have been able to do that without your book and the help of this forum.

Good to hear.

Thanks for the encouragement, Mike. Later this fall I am going to do a full paint correction on it with Pinnacle swirl remover and finishing polish and Das Original (3401) I will take lots of pics and post.

I had pretty good results on the top and trunk deck and I think I am ready to do the whole car.

I have been putting Pinnacle Souveran paste wax on, but I am thinking about a ceramic coating.

Any suggestions?

I'm currently using Pinnacle Black Label Surface Coating on our Mercedes-Benz SL 500 with the Ceramiclear paint finish and I absolutely love it.

1. The car stays cleaner longer.
2. The exterior cleans easier and faster when I wash it.
3. The exterior dries faster when I dry it.
4. The paint looks great, real glassy and feels slick and slippery to the touch.

The key to applying a coating is to first prep the paint correctly and then wash and dry the paint correctly and safely.

These topics would be better for their own dedicated thread if you want to continue discussion instead of talking about these topics in a thread and poll about wet sanding.

 

[fightnews]

How many people are interested in learning how to wet sand?


When I say wet sand, I mean learning both how to wet sand by hand and wet sand by machine.


1. Are you interested in learning the basic techniques just so you have the skill set but don't actually plan on doing any wet sanding.


2. Would you like to know how to wet sand but hope you never have to do any wetsanding?


3. Sometime in the future you have that special car project in the garage and at some point it will get painted and then you want to do the wet sanding and buffing instead of letting the shop do it?




Vote in the poll and also reply to this thread and state which of the three scenarios I listed best describe you.


Thank you.

i think all three would be accurate for me. id be to afraid of going through the clearcoat on the car i have now, but if i get the hood and front bumper painted this summer like i want to then i would def want to do the sanding myself if it needs it

 

[formula guy]

I think I'm a #2. And thanks for all you do for us.

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[Dandy98]

Of course I would !

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

***Update***


For everyone that replied to this thread and said they were interested in learning how to wet sand...


Here's your chance. If you're serioiuse, clear your schedule and make it happen.


Wetsanding Project - 1966 Corvette Stingray 427 Big Block Chevy

1966 Corvette Stingray

 

[JHL88]

currently 1 vote NO and 149 YES. I'd say the jury has spoken

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

currently 1 vote NO and 149 YES.

I'd say the jury has spoken

Yep...

Been teaching detailing as long as some and longer than others and here's my observation....


People want to learn the craft and skill of wet sanding.... but once they've been involved in a REAL-WORLD project and see exactly how much work it is and how much RISK is involved, then after that they are all pretty hesitant about every taking on a whole-car project.

Spot repair yes. Whole car? No.


But that's why it's good to have the opportunity to work on a whole-car project as to learn this experience by doing... not reading.

And this Saturday... our forum members and our Detailing 101 Facebook Group members have been invited to join me for a whole car project.


Wetsanding Project - 1929 Ford Model A Sedan Delivery Streetrod

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[RSW]

That's a really good car to teach on, lots of ways to go south...

As far as I'm concerned colorsanding is one of the cornerstones to becoming a really good detailer. If you can take a paint job that looks like stucco and turn it into a mirror there's nothing you should do, you can't do. It makes you stay focused on each step because shorting a step will come back to bite you every time. If your first cut - the one that will define the fundamental quality of the outcome because it's the one where almost all the real flattening happens - isn't consistent, the final finish won't be consistent. If the following cuts don't get to the bottom of the first scratch, your polisher will take out the finer scratches and reveal the scratches you didn't get to the bottom of. It forces you to pay attention the whole time, because if you daydream on one section and don't get it right, that section will show up like it's illuminated, and not in a good way, when you look at the whole car. I find that last one impossible. I've never, not even once, no matter how hard I tried been able to polish out a colorsand and wait a day or two and not find something. That's why I always schedule a follow up. Which brings me to my final point - it teaches you to accept your limitations and work out ways to overcome them.

I don't know what you're charging but if I was just starting out, that's probably the one class I'd be really interested in taking.

Good luck,
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[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

That's a really good car to teach on, lots of ways to go south...

Ha ha... I agree. The paint job had some major issues, mostly with areas being re-sprayed after the initial spray and this caused some "appearance" issues.

A good detailer is able to adjust-on-the-fly, that is, when a problem arises, they have the experience and the wherewithal to make changes and adjustments to successfully push through and finish the project.

As far as I'm concerned colorsanding is one of the cornerstones to becoming a really good detailer.

I'd say the two extremes when it comes to detailing are,

1: Correctly and properly restoring antique and original single stage paint.

2: Wet sanding modern paint.


Those are the extremes. One would be at the beginning of the "history" of the car and the other would be the current present as the future is always a day away, so until Sheldon invents a time machine we can't wetsand paint in the future, just what was sprayed in the last week or so... i.e. the present.