How to avoid the typical Collinite haze?

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Whenever applying Collinite 845 I have always applied it with a microfiber style applicator (presonal preference I gueess) and after 30 minutes or so of being in the sun this stuff hazes. I can be wiped off, but it keeps bleeding through for a while after. A full wash will get it off, but after doing a full detail I am usually too tired and don't feel like doing another full wash again. I know thin is the key, and I try to do that, but I don;t know if the mircofiber pad is preventing this. What is the best way to get this stuff applied without it hazing right after applying it, or is it just unavoidable when applying it by hand?

I have always mixed it with Polycharger CH2 becuase it seems to bump up the durability even more, but could this cause more in terms of haziness?

I have always applied two layers of it, one right after I wipe off the first. Is there any kind of curing or wait time before applying the second layer of 845?


Any suggestion on how to get this stuff to look good without the haze after initial application?
 
Can't say I have ever had this problem with 845 and honestly this is the first I have ever heard of it.
 
can this be applied in direct sunlight?
 
never had this problem. I use with a da and by hand with a yellow foam applicator. this is pretty durable itself so why the polycharger also? maybe this is what's giving u problem? now don't u want this to haze over and then remove ? it's how I do it. I do the whole vehicle then I remove. never had any trouble. and if u do 2 coats maybe do whole vehicle then remove and do again ? or even wait overnight.
 
been using 845 915 and 476 for a good amount of time now and none of them have ever done what you are describing. by calling the typical Collinite haze i am guessing you know of others with this issue and they told you it was normal? any pictures of this issue?
 
alko said:
can this be applied in direct sunlight?
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I wouldn't know if can be ? there r products out there that actually say can be but I don't do nothing in direct sunlight . I don't see why u couldn't but my guess it be a pain to remove being baked on ? idk
 
Never seen or heard of this. Im going to say its related to this, the polycharger. This is one product that I would save the polycharger. Its so durable without it.


05RLS2 said:
I have always mixed it with Polycharger CH2 becuase it seems to bump up the durability even more, but could this cause more in terms of haziness? ?
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I agree. ^^^

I, too, didn't know there was: "the typical Collinite haze" associated with 845 or other Colly products.

Here is some info on mixing Polycharger CH2 with other products....Colly products are not refferenced here as being compatible; but, there are inferrences elsewhere (Four Star's web site, among others) that say differently though. Further testing of PolyCharger's effects on different wax/sealant products is ongoing, no doubt. You, OP, might be performing one yourself. Submit it for evaluation. :)

http://www.polycharger.com/files/dosing-chart.pdf

Bob
 
Wow sweating with collinite? Never seen it, my guess is your applying the second coat to fast or the polycharger is having a weird effect on it
 
I've been using Collinite 845 for quite some time now and the only time I've ever had an issue with it was when I applied to to thick. Collinite 845 is one of my all time favorite waxes and there's no typical Collinite haze associated with it. I apply Collinite 845 with my Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher and a red Lake Country foam pad. Lake Country is the pad I use however any soft foam pad designed for applying sealants and waxes will do fine. I never use a microfiber applicator as they tend so soak up way too much product making it difficult to lay a thin enough film. In my opinion they're also too rough. If I need a hand applicator I use a soft foam pad made from the same material as the ones I use on my dual action polisher. I understand your thought process behind adding a poly-charger however I'm not sure how compatible it is with this product. The issue that I suspect your having is due to applying this a bit too heavy and not removing it completely when buffing. I've seen this occurrence hundreds of times through the years and all due to over applying a product.
 
There is no "typical" Collinite haze. The two products you are mixing don't play well together.
 
Perfections said:
Wow sweating with collinite? Never seen it, my guess is your applying the second coat to fast or the polycharger is having a weird effect on it
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Usually I will apply it to the entire car and let it haze, then wipe it off. Takes about an hour or so. Then I aplly the second layer. Is there some sort of time frame I should follow like with sealants before applying the second?

BobbyG said:
I've been using Collinite 845 for quite some time now and the only time I've ever had an issue with it was when I applied to to thick. Collinite 845 is one of my all time favorite waxes and there's no typical Collinite haze associated with it. I apply Collinite 845 with my Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher and a red Lake Country foam pad. Lake Country is the pad I use however any soft foam pad designed for applying sealants and waxes will do fine. I never use a microfiber applicator as they tend so soak up way too much product making it difficult to lay a thin enough film. In my opinion they're also too rough. If I need a hand applicator I use a soft foam pad made from the same material as the ones I use on my dual action polisher. I understand your thought process behind adding a poly-charger however I'm not sure how compatible it is with this product. The issue that I suspect your having is due to applying this a bit too heavy and not removing it completely when buffing. I've seen this occurrence hundreds of times through the years and all due to over applying a product.
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Maybe the case is I am applying it too thick then. With the Meguiars MF applicator pads I try to do it thin, but I guess the product in the pad absorbs to much and overappplicates. How much product do you typcally apply to a hand applicator and to a red foam pad?

If I am applying it the correct way of very thin, should I be able to see the product on the surface as soon as I apply it or when it hazes?

RTexasF said:
There is no "typical" Collinite haze. The two products you are mixing don't play well together.
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Before I started using it, a Polycharger reseller told me it was compatible and to use 2 drops per ounce of 845. So that is what I have been using. Weather or not this is their independent testing or hearsay, who knows. Polychargers site says many products are compatible and not listed. Maybe someone who deals with Polycharger on a regular basis can chime in and say for sure



What kind of durability are you all seeing with just 845 alone? I haven't used plain 845 in so long so I don't know. Are you all typically using foam hand applicators over microfiber applicators?
 
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My car is small but I can do it by hand with a Pinnacle Foam applicator and only use about 1/2 oz. If I use a DA I use less than that. I can see it on the paint while applying and after it hazes. I don't do the whole car before wiping off, I do 2 panels then wipe off the first and so on. I have never had a problem and is one of the easiest waxes I've used.
 
i just put a top coat of 845 on my car today. and forgot about it cause i ended up getting busy doing something else . it sat on the car for 2 hours it was still easy to wipe off etc and still looks great lol
 
Why not do half the hood with 845 Polycharged and the other half without Polycharger. I suspect over applying to be the culprit. 845 seems to have a lot of solvents, so applying a second coat is only removing the 1st IMO.
 
Can leaving it on too long cause streaking to appear once exposed to the sun after it has been wiped off? I have heard of people doing a few sections and then wiping while others doing the whole car. I usually do the entire car then wipe

I am going to test both ways with an without polycharger and see if this is the culprit, plus I'll get a test on durability too. I'll also test with layering to see how much of a difference there is. I have been kind of turned off from 845 due to the streaking I have bene getting before, but I am going to try it again this time with Polycharger on the test sections only everywhere else gets straight 845
 
BobbyG said:
I've been using Collinite 845 for quite some time now and the only time I've ever had an issue with it was when I applied to to thick. Collinite 845 is one of my all time favorite waxes and there's no typical Collinite haze associated with it. I apply Collinite 845 with my Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher and a red Lake Country foam pad. Lake Country is the pad I use however any soft foam pad designed for applying sealants and waxes will do fine. I never use a microfiber applicator as they tend so soak up way too much product making it difficult to lay a thin enough film. In my opinion they're also too rough. If I need a hand applicator I use a soft foam pad made from the same material as the ones I use on my dual action polisher. I understand your thought process behind adding a poly-charger however I'm not sure how compatible it is with this product. The issue that I suspect your having is due to applying this a bit too heavy and not removing it completely when buffing. I've seen this occurrence hundreds of times through the years and all due to over applying a product.
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How do you get the collinite onto the pad? I saw one thread where someone takes a butter knife and spreads it on. I just bought some 915 in my last order and would actually prefer to apply it with my PC.
 
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