How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

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How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

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This article was originally written by me, (Mike Phillips), and posted to MeguiarsOnline on May 28th, 2006 and it can be found here,

How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

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-Mike Phillips

A few tips and techniques for helping your camera to focus on the surface so you can capture the defects in the paint you're hoping to remove.


Finger Pointing Focus Technique
Besides figuring out the right camera setting for your specific camera, another quick, simple way to help your camera focus on a defect you're trying to capture with a picture is to simply place your index finger close to the defect on or hovering over the finish then carefully captures a few pictures and in most cases you'll get a couple you can use on the Internet. This works for Swirls, Scratches, Etchings, Water Spots both Type I and Type II, Stains, Oxidation, etc. Basically anything on the surface. The reason you need to give the camera something to focus on is because often times when taking shots of a large, uniform, flat surface, once any focus points are zoomed out of the picture your camera has nothing to sense and focus on.

Detailing Clay
You can also use a little piece of detailing clay because in most cases you have some detailing clay around. If the paint is clean and it should when trying to capture pictures of surface defects, then when you're done taking your pictures you should be okay to put the little piece of clay back into the large piece you took it from or just through it away. A small piece will work fine. (See picture below).

Coin
A coin can also be used if the surface is flat and horizontal like the hood. Place the coin carefully onto the paint so as not to instill a scratch. If you already have a flawless, swirl-free finish then maybe stick with the finger or clay technique. If you're getting ready to buff the car out then as long as you're careful you'll be okay; remember you're going to be buffing out the paint and likely the defect you're trying to capture with a picture.


Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Detailing Clay
Another way to help your camera focus on a surface defect is to place something on the surface of the paint, for example in the below picture we placed a small piece of detailing clay on the paint, then let the camera auto focus and wa-la, perfectly captured swirls, scratches and a bird dropping etching in the paint.

Random, Isolated Deeper Scratch
Scratch Removed using Ultimate Compound

An Isolated Bird Dropping Etching
How To Remove a Bird Dropping Etching by Hand using M105 Ultra Cut Compound

Photos courtesy of MeguiarsOnline.com

 

[jayhkr]

Nice post up Mike! I never thought of using a piece of clay. My Nikon D5000 takes ultra sharp pictures, however I usually need to be arms length to get good pictures from it. That's kind of hard to hold one arm to the paint while the other arm is taking the picture. I always use the manual focus on my lens as that seems to help too!

 

[WRAPT C5Z06]

I never knew that pointing a finger in the picture will help the camera focus!!! I thought it was 100% because they're just pointing out the defect. Thanks MIKE!!! :dblthumb2:

 

[dougaross]

A small piece of masking tape would perform the same function. It would be useful on vertical surfaces.

 

[Rob T]

Focusing can be a challenge on painted surfaces. The real key to bringing out the swirls in photos is the lighting. Lighting is always the key to photography.

 

[AndrewBall]

The real key to bringing out the swirls in photos is the lighting. Lighting is always the key to photography.

You Speak the truth my man.

lighting for taking pictures of detailed cars is extremely difficult. On this forum we are just trying to show details of the finish but to capture the entire car its a much different process.

I've had the opportunity to work with one of the automotive industries greats. Michael Furman Automotive photographer.

A lot goes into creating his images.

for example, he uses a 40 foot long soft box with over 12 lights in it. the angle of the light bank in relation to the vehicle on more then one axis greatly affects the final image.

Now for our uses, we dont want a large soft light source, if we are trying to show surface defects. For say, a Before Shot.

You need a small specular light source. This will have a similar affect as the sun does.

This is why the brinkman swirl finder light works so well.

The small specular light source hits the scratches and sends highlights through them as the light scatters. revealing them with great distinction.

The reason work lamps work so well is that are relatively small but they are square (making them specular) and the contrast ration from the light source to the edge is so high. So you see the scratches.

Trying to make your after shots look more dramatic? Use Contrasty locations. areas with bright like and dark shadows. this will make the reflections look deeper. Diffused light is the best but most of use aren't going to drive around and find a great spot that will be up to some photographer to do. but your uses remember these little tips it can make your images that much more impressive.

 

[Rob T]

You Speak the truth my man.

lighting for taking pictures of detailed cars is extremely difficult. On this forum we are just trying to show details of the finish but to capture the entire car its a much different process.

I've had the opportunity to work with one of the automotive industries greats. Michael Furman Automotive photographer.

A lot goes into creating his images.

for example, he uses a 40 foot long soft box with over 12 lights in it. the angle of the light bank in relation to the vehicle on more then one axis greatly affects the final image.

Now for our uses, we dont want a large soft light source, if we are trying to show surface defects. For say, a Before Shot.

You need a small specular light source. This will have a similar affect as the sun does.

This is why the brinkman swirl finder light works so well.

The small specular light source hits the scratches and sends highlights through them as the light scatters. revealing them with great distinction.

The reason work lamps work so well is that are relatively small but they are square (making them specular) and the contrast ration from the light source to the edge is so high. So you see the scratches.

Trying to make your after shots look more dramatic? Use Contrasty locations. areas with bright like and dark shadows. this will make the reflections look deeper. Diffused light is the best but most of use aren't going to drive around and find a great spot that will be up to some photographer to do. but your uses remember these little tips it can make your images that much more impressive.

Great stuff! :xyxthumbs:

 

[jcarson112]

For those with a DSLR, it is far easier to capture the defects in paint by switching off the auto focus.

 

[Rob T]

For those with a DSLR, it is far easier to capture the defects in paint by switching off the auto focus.

It isn't a question of being able to easily capture the defects by turning off the auto focus, but rather whether you can focus on the defect better with auto focus off.

Generally I would say yes, because a shiny paint surface is difficult for AF systems to focus on.

 

[Fly bye]

I sometimes use AF to achieve focus, then switch to MF so the focal length stays put.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

The finger technique used to capture tiny pinhole pits in a glass windshield

Tiny tiny tiny pinhole pits in the glass

 

[opie_7afe]

any tricks to capture defects in white paint? i know direct sun is useless it just blinds the camera, however i have parked under a tree and that puts some light on the paint and can see some defects but not like you can with darker paints...

 

[jcarson112]

Figured this one out a while back... the thread didn't gain much attention however.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...0391-trouble-finding-defects-white-paint.html

 

[sparklingwater]

DO you think you can capture a real live look of the briliance of a car in the sun or in the garage better?

 

[andres]

In you opinion/experience, can you tell me whether or not swirls manifest themselves usually brighter than RIDS in your pictures? This is particularly interesting to me because I'm researching the probabilities that swirls may be enhanced by some optical phenomena (I started some other thread on this, and I'm still researching about it). Thanks.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

DO you think you can capture a real live look of the briliance of a car in the sun or in the garage better?

Yes.

In you opinion/experience, can you tell me whether or not swirls manifest themselves usually brighter than RIDS in your pictures?

Yes. Swirls show up in bright light like overhead sunlight.

RIDS show up under fluorescent lights AFTER you buff out the car and remove all the shallow swirls and scratches. Then they stand out like a sore thumb.

 

[Coyote33]

You can use the sticky tabs meant for marking signature lines in documents too. They stick to vertical surfaces, but leave no residue. Some are even shaped like an arrow. I found some at the dollar store and will use them going forward.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

You can use the sticky tabs meant for marking signature lines in documents too. They stick to vertical surfaces, but leave no residue. Some are even shaped like an arrow. I found some at the dollar store and will use them going forward.

Good tip...

Sometims I just take a piecie of masking tape, draw an arrow on it and the place the tape on the thing I'm trying to bring attention to either for a picture or to avoid buffing on it like this,


Tips on Taping Off Thin Paint and Chipped Paint


From this article years ago....



Here's a thin spot along the hood edge...

You can place some tape on the adjacent panel as a marker so you don't forget about it as you buff this area...

:xyxthumbs:

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

***Bump***


Saw someone asking how to get pictures of swirls this week somewhere on this forum....


Check out this thread.