How to know when to clean/change your pad

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So I polished today and everything went well I went through a few pads and wanted to know how to know when to change pads, I wanted to know if heavy compounds need to be changed more often then polishes and what not. I have pictures here. The first pic is a pad after a few panels. Should I change this to a new pad or is it steal able to be used? I have a pad cleaning brush also so if it just needs to be swiped a few times idk. The second pic is the pad folding around the backing plate it's a 5inch backing plate and a 5.5 inch pad is this normal?View attachment 47922View attachment 47923
 
I've never used "oversized" pads before so I can't help you on that one, but as for when to change pads, it depends ... are you cutting, polishing or applying wax/sealant? If cutting, it's better to clean/change the pad more frequently since more compound and paint debris will be building up in the pad. Polishing a little less so and applying wax/sealant you can apply it to the whole car with one pad

Read this post from Mike Phillips: CLEAN YOUR PADS OFTEN
 
I wasn't using an oversized pad that's the size they recommend


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I wasn't using an oversized pad that's the size they recommend


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I know, that's why I put it in quotes, I just use the Meguiars 5" pads that are the same size as the backing plate so there is no hang over or curling of the pad. It would seem that the pad curling over is normal since it hangs over some.
 
Looks like too much pressure, you using a white polishing pad for a polishing step, ease up.
 
I'm one of those guys that changes pads often in a detail.

The more paint you are removing, the more that debris loads up in the pad and affects its performance (for the worse), so yes, when compounding, I change out pads more often than when doing final polishing.

Add to this the longer you use the pad before switching it out, the more heat builds up in the pad and this also causes problems because polishes will tend to dry out and cause dusting, and may cause separation issues with the velcro backing, or actual pad failure.

So by switching out to a fresh pad often, it puts less strain on each pad meaning they will last longer, and delivers better results in the process

Some people may purchase lesser quantities and a pad washer, and 'cycle' the pads but I prefer to just be able to reach for a clean and completely dry pad after every 4 sections [fresh pad for section 1, clean on fly, do section 2, clean on fly, do section 3, clean on fly, do section 4 and retire pad].

To use say a VW golf 5/6/7 sized car as an example I'd probably use the following for the initial cutting
Hood 2x6.5" hybrids, 2x5" hybrids
Roof x 2x6.5" hybrids, 2x5" hybrids
Front fenders 1x5" hybrid
Front bumper 1x5" hybrid (or maybe even a smaller pad)
Rear fenders 1x5" hybrid
Rear bumper 1x5" hybrid (or maybe even a smaller pad)
Bootlid 1x5" hybrid
Doors 2x6.5" hybrids, 2x5" hybrids
B-pillars + tail lights 2x5" hybrids

Then where I'd do say 4 sections with a pad before switching it out when cutting, I'd do 6 sections with final polishing, and for applying LSP's you can generally get away with one. I don't do a lot of AIO type details so don't know what 'typical' for me would be, but as you generally use an AIO more 'wet' than a normal polish I'd imagine you'd still need to change fairly often or you'd get a very 'soggy' pad...?

Of course there will be many other approaches adopted by many other detailers... the above is just mine.
 
I clean my pad after every section cycle. I'll wipe off the moist residue, and brush out particulates, then move to the next section. Even with heavy cutting I usually only end up using two pads per cutting and polishing step. I always take for with me though.

At a certain point the pad will not clean out as well, and you then want to switch to a clean one.
 
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