I have a few carnauba wax questions..

is there enough of a difference to purchase both ??
 
To me, I prefer the OE, I do not use the Juiced version. If you want to buy just one just get the OE. The juiced version has more of a sealant look, doesn't have that nuba glow.
 
So with paste wax, you should do one panel at a time? I never used paste until last night. I did the hood and front quarters w/P21S 100%. It seemed harder to get off the longer it sat, and more dust. I did the rest, a panel at a time. What a difference. Easy to remove and no dust.
 
Waxmax said:
IMO, haze over or dry time is not the same as cure time. Even the WOWO carnaubas require a cure time to fully harden.

Cure time is 12-24 hrs. typically, then you can add another coat. I would reapply every 4-6 weeks depending on conditions.
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A Carnaua wax doesn't cure (it sets-up or hardens) and it shouldn't take 12-24 hours to do this.

Wax Application – like most car care products Carnauba wax is designed to provide maximum results with minimum product application, most Carnauba waxes work well using the WOWO (wipe on wipe off) method while still slightly damp but not completely dry, generally apply a very thin layer, preferably with a distilled water primed foam applicator; allowing it to haze, then wiping off. I would suggest you do a swipe-test (swipe the surface with your finger, if the wax is still liquid wait for a while and repeat)

Allowing a Carnauba wax or Glaze to set-up for 45-60 minutes (see manufacturers instructions on specific products) is usually more than sufficient, as wax doesn’t form a molecular bond like a polymer does this will allow the solvents to outgas, which will be dependant upon ambient temperature / humidity)

As a wax ‘sets-up’, it goes through a number of stages.

1.The first stage is the application of the liquid product; friction will cleanse the dirt, oxidization, old waxes etc. In effect you are lifting the dirt away from the paintwork and into the liquid wax and then into the applicator.

2.The next stage is that you leave the wax to haze. This is where the solvents and oils out gas (evaporate) and leave the resin and fillers behind to dry and set-up on the paint.

3.The best way to determine if it is ready to be removed is to do the swipe test. Run your bare finger across the paint and if the product doesn't smear it is dry enough to be removed.

4.Next you remove the excess. Anything that is has not adhered to the paint will be wiped away with the buffing towel and as you wipe away you will end up giving the resin a slight buff to bring out its gloss

5.A good technique is to buff the wax with a 100% cotton micro fibre cloth and then spritz the paintwork with cold distilled water and wipe down, this helps to set the wax and will add that little extra gloss. Allow the solvents to vaporise (outgas) in the suns heat (2 – 4 hours dependant upon climatic conditions) and then buff to a gloss. Carnauba wax provides better protection from bird / insect excrement than a polymer.

Humidity affects the application because Carnauba is inherently hygroscopic (absorbs moisture) if you notice dark streaks during the application of Carnauba waxes, it tells you that the humidity is high. This will also retard the set-up time, usually, if the car is left in the sun for a few minutes after the wax has been applied the streaks will disappear. Windy conditions affect the curing of the wax because winds move more oxygen across the waxed surface, curing it faster. If you must wax your car on a windy humid day, wax smaller sections at a time (one foot by one foot, 1ft = 12").

Surface Temperature (Actual surface temperature of the vehicle) between 50oF (10oC) and 80oF (26oC) products will work well within a much broader temperature range, i.e. 45° to 90° F (4.5-32oC) but at 45 degrees it will take much longer to dry, perhaps as much as two to three hours) but the best results will be achieved in the 60° to 70° F (15-21oC) range surrounding air temp (ambient or room)
 
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I respectfully disagree about the time for a carnauba to cure, or fully harden, or set-up...whatever term you want to use. Depending on temp and humidity and solvents in the carnauba, it may not need 24 hrs. (that's conservative I'm sure), but I disagree about 1-2 hrs. I'd rather wait longer and not rush things.....that's just me.
 
After reading the reference to Rubbish Boys OE wax (by Asphalt Rocket) in this thread. I went the website. They recommend not buffing off the wax for 20 minutes. You could do the entire car and then come back to remove (FOFO).

If you wish to add a second coat, they recommend allowing it to cure 24 hours.

The terms haze, dry, cure, set up are sometimes used interchangeably. For me cure=fully hardened=ready for a second layer. But to each his own.

Also, some manufacturers recommend the WOWO method and some recommend allowing the wax to haze and make sure it is dry before removing.

I have also read where spraying the initial coat of carnauba with chilled distilled water can speed up the cure time.
 
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