Ice water after several coats of carnauba

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Hi all. So I haven't seen this anywhere yet so I'm asking now.

Something that was taught to me many years ago by an automotive painter was that after applying several coats of a carnauba wax was to do a final buff using an ice water. The theory behind this was that the cold water would make the wax hard and while buffing it one would be taking off the "high spots" of the wax while smoothing it thus giving a very reflective final surface. I took this to heart and began to do this religiously on my black Acura Integra back in the day. As I remember the results were pretty impressive. I haven't tried this in a long time because I haven't had a black car since 2005 but have considered doing this once again to re-validate this.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Brian
 
Never heard anything like that....with today's waxes I really don't think it would do anything. As far as waxes when that painter was a young man I don't know. It is interesting...
 
I've never heard of that. I don't really know how effective that process would be with modern waxes/sealants.
 
You ever done test spots to see if there was any difference? If not, it could be a placebo effect

Never seen the method posted here. I wonder how many car he done with this method. A lot of spray painters are not experienced with wax as not suitable to use after freshly painting
 
I've heard people say to spit shine a car you lay down a coat of wax then spray it with Ice water as you layer on additional coats. They claim that the ice water stops the solvents in the coat being applied from dissolving the coat of wax that's already on the car. A bit too OCD for me. I'll pass.
 
DaveT435 said:
Never heard anything like that....with today's waxes I really don't think it would do anything. As far as waxes when that painter was a young man I don't know. It is interesting...
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Oh...this painter was about my age or just a bit younger...I'm 39 now so maybe somewhere around late twenties ish or so back then. I think that I learned this around 2000.

Just for reference I used this process at that time: clay...Meguiars deep crystal paint cleaner...#7 show car glaze...2-3 coats of gold class (original version)...then the ice water buff. Ice water was in a spray bottle and I would mist a fresh microfiber bonnet on my 10" craftsman buffer just enough so that you would leave a slight trail as you were buffing but the trail would be evaporating just shortly trailing the buffer.
 
You can get the same effect by doing a special detailing dance......... And sending me an Autogeek gift card!
 
JSFM35x said:
You can get the same effect by doing a special detailing dance......... And sending me an Autogeek gift card!
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...on its way! Im the MANIm the MANIm the MAN

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
 
I've been detailing cars since the mid-80's (yes I'm old...), never heard of anything like this. But hey, what the heck? Let's break out the Turtle Wax and go for it!!
 
I've heard of something like this back in the late 70's. My brother in law was an auto body guy and said to always apply 2 coats of wax and spray the first one with cold water from the hose, wipe dry and apply the second coat. The same theory of "setting" up the first coat so the second doesn't remove/mix with the first. Lol I forgot about that....funny. I'll pass as well.
 
My personal experience is that It decreases the dust static ability of a carnauba wax by putting few sprits of water and then buff the panel.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Eh, you kids!

As Tuscarora Dave noted, this is the "spit shine" technique, and you were misinformed or don't remember it correctly. The purpose of the technique is to allow layering by preventing subsequent layers of wax from dissolving the previous layers.

Here's an old (meandering) thread about it: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/40771-spit-shining.html
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:iagree:

You have said it all!

I tried it a couple of times back in the dark ages...don't remember how well it worked. BUT it sure worked great on those rough surfaced military shoes (oxfords, low-cut leather)!

Bill
 
-Allegedly...(w/my hightlighting):

"Pink Carnauba is a true one-of-a-kind paste wax. This specialty paste wax is formulated with
the purest carnauba wax available that we then bond with water molecules to work on
our world-famous "spit-shine" concept that we originated over 50 years ago"!

"Pink Carnauba delivers an unbeatable shine and unique ability to "build," allowing the coating
to be increased with repeated applications for greater shine, depth, clarity, and protection!
It is uniquely unlike any other paste wax on the market! Pink Carnauba has a wax content of
100% Carnauba. No blends. No lesser waxes. No synthetics".

-But...Is the above being-bold statement actually true?
How? I ask...If (to continue the above statement):

"With only the most mild of cleaning agents, it is ideal for all paint finishes
and is a particular favorite of collector car owners who demand the best".

-Does this, then:

"Blow everything"...that has seemed to be acknowledged, as it pertains to:
'layering'/'topping'(?) with products that contain:
"cleaning-agents"...(chemical and/or abrasive)..."Out of the water"?!?!

:D

Bob
 
BillE said:
:iagree:

You have said it all!

I tried it a couple of times back in the dark ages...don't remember how well it worked. BUT it sure worked great on those rough surfaced military shoes (oxfords, low-cut leather)!

Bill[/QUOTE
Still does, don't forget to melt the wax first before application :xyxthumbs:
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I heard of it back in the 60s, but never tried it, except on Boots and low-quarters, and probably had swirls then, lol.
 
Hey back in the early 80's. Yes I'm old we use to use cornstrach as a final polish to make the car really shine. So putting ice water between carnauba wax seem logical to cure it.

All the supplies we used came about from using different stuff to make the shine better

Ed
 
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i spit shined the fender , the wax i used was #26, since it is a pure wax, i think this technique should be more effective with this wax
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hoyt66 said:
I've heard of something like this back in the late 70's. My brother in law was an auto body guy and said to always apply 2 coats of wax and spray the first one with cold water from the hose, wipe dry and apply the second coat. The same theory of "setting" up the first coat so the second doesn't remove/mix with the first. Lol I forgot about that....funny. I'll pass as well.
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Ditto here... same time frame, same theory.
 
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