If You're Not Taping, Then What?

SlamMan

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I was reading about taping and found out that some of you don't tape as much as you used to. Does that mean you're not polishing every last bit of paint, or going back to do a lot of stuff by hand, or just running over everything with the DA and cleaning it out later.

I'll definitely tape any rubber pieces and emblems but do you find it easier to clean polish out from between cracks and panels where paint meets paint or do you tape those too?

After taping a few places I just started thinking it might be easier to clean out polish later.

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I tape off emblems, plastic/rubber trim and headlights/taillights. I know some tape off more, but I found that this works for me.
 
I wing it with no major problems ... using a decent sealant or wax .. power lock , fuzion or lusso.. the stuff just comes off with a microfiber..
 
I tape a lot... basically everything when doing my best work. I go without sometimes but If I really want to do teh job right I tape. I know others can do the job right without taping but for me it's more fun to not have to worry about that when I am trying to perfect everything with a machine polish. I probably take longer than anybody to tape off a car but I am learning to get faster. Depending on what wax or sealant I am using I might leave the tape on to the last step or take it off after the finishing polish.
 
I only tape plastic/rubber areas. I did tape everything before but it's too time consuming. I just try to be careful.

If you're detailing for money, you should probably tape things up. I only do my own cars so I can always go back later if I miss a spot.
 
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I'm going to have to go with just rubber and plastic because I just don't have the patience to do too much taping. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making a big mistake. If I was getting paid doing another person's car I suppose I might feel different.
 
My personal cars or customer cars, everything is taped off. If you practice lazy you will work lazy.
 
What all do you tape? Do you have any examples?

I tape body seams with 1/4" green masking tape, tape off all window trim (usually with 3/4" tape) and cover windows, tape off all emblems, door handles, and any opening that I don't want dust to accumulate in. All of this of course if I'm polishing the paint.
 
I tape body seams with 1/4" green masking tape, tape off all window trim (usually with 3/4" tape) and cover windows, tape off all emblems, door handles, and any opening that I don't want dust to accumulate in. All of this of course if I'm polishing the paint.

Do you have to go back and get the parts under the tape by hand? Since you qualified it for when you're polishing, when wouldn't you tape?
 
If you know what the hell your doing you don't need tape ;)

Uhhhh, no. Nice try, though.

Taping is an absolutely critical part of doing a proper full correction detail. Otherwise you'll end up with a mess that will take twice as long to clean back up as it would have taken to just tape off in the first place.
 
I only tape things that can stain...I find everything else just comes off during my final wash before I apply my LSP.
 
I think some contributing to this thread have had the same confusion I have had in the past. The point is you must mask when doing a paint correction, ie. polishing, compounding, or what have you. If you are just applying a sealant or wax etc., masking is not necessary if you are applying product correctly.
 
Good thread and questions!

Taping serves two purposes:

1) when used to cover crevices, tape aides in keeping final cleanup quick and easy. Less polish to blast of scrub out of jambs, hinges, crevices, etc. And believe me, there will be residue in your crevices, and it will turn to concrete after a few heat/sun cycles. I should also mention that trying to brush out remains (with practically any brush) from crevices WILL mar paint. Most cleaners that can remove the stubborn residue will also remove that fresh residue you have resting as LSP. So taping goes a long way to keeping your processes more efficient.

I personally use tape only for polishing. Once the polishing is done, I pull back the tape and work on cleaning up any "tape lines". I will sometimes de-tape prior to jeweling, dependent of they type of trim. Anything painted or metalized is pretty much safe for some very light PO85RD-kind of stuff. Even uncoated metal trim can get marked from polishes and compounds albeit much more difficult to mar up metal. But if the trim has a satin finish, any polishing against the grain can cause a noticeable difference in the surface. Any bare plastic or rubber trim gets tape up until final wash.

I know of people who keep the tape on during application of LSP. If you are using a All In One or a cleaner wax, this may be a good idea. It is also easier to be careful with a foam applicator at your finger tips than a polisher, so you can get away with not using tape for LSP. If you use something that will not go white and dry up, no tape is necessary. When I apply LSP via the PC, I go over everything. All trim, seals, etc. Match the process to the product.


2) protecting edges from too much polishing: Edges of panels have risen paint levels as the paint meniscus-es at the edge, and a lack thereof on the edge itself. Even with the PC you can polish through an edge (will take some effort and M105 or harder). Plastic bumpers are horrible for this type of problem, and any sharp "character" edge will suffer sooner than any sharp body character line. When using the rotary, tape around an edge will keep the pad from polishing through any proud (over-flush or under-flush) panel to panel edges, which happens at the far edges of your working focus point and can surprise the most seasoned veteran. As you start to work with more and more (and varied) vehicles, expect to get surprised. Stay on your toes and use tape as a planning process: problem solved.
 
If you know what the hell your doing you don't need tape ;)


Funny thing is I only hear this excuse from people who I would not consider to "know what the hell [they] are doing" ;) A man of your experience should know this, Flash!
 
I wash the car before claying. From that point forward I don't wash it again. If I washed it after polishing then I wouldn't tape as much. On top of knowing dust won't get into places I'll never even know about.. taping allows me to not have to wash the car again. Like Richard I tape off all crevices so no dust gets in there. If I had to wash the car again then I would get water in the crevices all over again and have to wipe down the underside of the hood again and the underside of the lid again. And of course when I popped the lid to do that some water would sneak out of some other spot and run onto an area that was complete.

After polishing I clean the paint instead of washing it again. And then move to seal
 
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