I'm resisting buying any more detailing products

[Mgavin1985]

If you buy McKee’s your will get coating bug and want to do Lytton them all. Only downfall with coating is cleaning is so easy and there nothing to do detailing wise. It’s hard not to top a coating I end up doing it always. I have a whole box of sealants too. When I first started using coating Budgetplan1 helped me out and coating have been it for me wanting to try them all since. Maybe get CQ Uk instead I overlooked that one in beginning not try it until after about 8 hours been real happy with it and it towards cheaper side

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Ok lol so much do those bottles run I?

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[Coatingsarecrack]

Yeah, I think that's a knee-jerk reaction, some of us for work or personal are tasked or simply feel the need to search for the most economical way to buy stuff, so by extension with the detailing stuff it's "well of course I'm going to buy a gallon, it's so much less per ounce" without really thinking about how much product that was and whether you were going to be able to use it up before the next flavor or even before that product got revised. So I started buying smaller bottles of stuff.

And then I lost my mind and bought 5 liters of Ech2O...but you have to understand, they were selling it for LESS than the 4 liter bottle! You understand, don't you??

You’ll be buried many years from now.... the nice thing is it will still be half full so you’ll be preserved welll


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[Calendyr]

I was considering getting McKees coating while on their 25% off no minimum sale. But I have a variety of good sealants and feel that I should use them up. I'm a hobbyist and do friends and families cars. I just hate to waste stuff. What to do??

If you apply a coating like McKee's, you can use your spray on sealants as a drying aid. As for regular seallants, you won't need them anymore. So you could give them to someone or keep them just in case.

 

[Calendyr]

I have pretty much stopped buying everything I feel like trying now. Took me a few years but I am there. Now I have a to buy list. When I see something that I really want to try, I put it on the list. When I run out of that type of product, I buy the one on the list instead.

 

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[dlc95]

The other point of contention I have with tons of product, is that things like liquid waxes and sealants tend to go bad. I'm a believer in fresh product when it comes to protection especially.

 

[mdbenge]

As a hobbyist that's been around detailing for longer than a lot of you are old there are times when I look at the racks (yes racks - plural) and know there is no way I'll come close to using all the product. That said, everything detailing related I've purchased has taught me something about detailing and there's not a single purchase that I regret.

If you're a professional in the business by definition it is necessary to stay abreast of new developments in the detailing world. I'm not sure how you can do that without investing (or having great friends who share samples ). Even getting first hand accounts by the detailing wizards here is not the same as using the product(s) yourself. I guarantee you that in my actual day job if I were to have stayed with what I knew when I came out of college I would have been unemployed a long time ago and not by choice. All professions and hobbies require a certain amount of investment/spending in order to be 'successful' and enjoyable -- whatever those terms means to you.

 

[acuRAS82]

^^ Amen.

 

[Calendyr]

As a hobbyist that's been around detailing for longer than a lot of you are old there are times when I look at the racks (yes racks - plural) and know there is no way I'll come close to using all the product. That said, everything detailing related I've purchased has taught me something about detailing and there's not a single purchase that I regret.

If you're a professional in the business by definition it is necessary to stay abreast of new developments in the detailing world. I'm not sure how you can do that without investing (or having great friends who share samples ). Even getting first hand accounts by the detailing wizards here is not the same as using the product(s) yourself. I guarantee you that in my actual day job if I were to have stayed with what I knew when I came out of college I would have been unemployed a long time ago and not by choice. All professions and hobbies require a certain amount of investment/spending in order to be 'successful' and enjoyable -- whatever those terms means to you.

That is true to an extent but few products are revolutionary. Usually, when a new product comes along, it might be slightly better than what was avaialble before. As an enthousiast, it makes no sense to throw away a perfectly good sealant to purchase one that might have slightly better characteristics.

On the other hand, when something revolutionary is released, then yes, throw away that sealant and get the coating... I felt the same way years ago when people were waxing their cars when sealants did such a better job.

As a pro, if I wanted to try everything that came out, I would never stop switching products. So I rely a lot on reviews and comments on what products to try. What I usually look for are new products that do things I could not do before, or do it in a much improved manner. And those are uncommon.

The key thing is to use the products correctly, and sometimes that comes with experience. Experience you might not be able to get if you switch products everytime something new is released.

 

[Misterpaul]

I notice that someone that buys the latest is missing from this thread...oke: :bolt: :laughing:


BTW: that someone has an unopened bottle of TW rinseless in my basement with his name on it. :xyxthumbs:

 

[mdbenge]

That is true to an extent but few products are revolutionary. Usually, when a new product comes along, it might be slightly better than what was avaialble before. As an enthousiast, it makes no sense to throw away a perfectly good sealant to purchase one that might have slightly better characteristics.

On the other hand, when something revolutionary is released, then yes, throw away that sealant and get the coating... I felt the same way years ago when people were waxing their cars when sealants did such a better job.

As a pro, if I wanted to try everything that came out, I would never stop switching products. So I rely a lot on reviews and comments on what products to try. What I usually look for are new products that do things I could not do before, or do it in a much improved manner. And those are uncommon.

The key thing is to use the products correctly, and sometimes that comes with experience. Experience you might not be able to get if you switch products everytime something new is released.

I think we're agreeing on the same points but allow me to add a couple of lines.

When I stated a person/professional has to keep abreast of new products that does NOT mean it's going to be better, it simply means you have to do your homework. Whatever that means to the individual. It also does not imply an individual has to go into bankruptcy in order to be on the latest/greatest even IF they happen to be that much better. There is ALWAYS a cost-benefit ratio that needs to be considered. The definitions of those terms varies from individual to individual and company to company.

Another aspect that has been beat to death on this forum and I whole-heartedly agree with is that a person with skills can take a poorer/cheaper product and do much better than a person with no skills using the latest/greatest.

 

[Calendyr]

I think we're agreeing on the same points but allow me to add a couple of lines.

When I stated a person/professional has to keep abreast of new products that does NOT mean it's going to be better, it simply means you have to do your homework. Whatever that means to the individual. It also does not imply an individual has to go into bankruptcy in order to be on the latest/greatest even IF they happen to be that much better. There is ALWAYS a cost-benefit ratio that needs to be considered. The definitions of those terms varies from individual to individual and company to company.

Another aspect that has been beat to death on this forum and I whole-heartedly agree with is that a person with skills can take a poorer/cheaper product and do much better than a person with no skills using the latest/greatest.

Yes, result is a combination of knowledge (knowing what to do to correct a problem or make something better) + product quality + skill.

As for keeping informed, I agree with you. You are not forced to try everything though. Looking at product demonstrations and reading reviews from trusted source will give you the info you need. I even keep informed on product I think are total crap (Like F11 Top Coat and Meguiars Ceramicwax). This way when a client comes to me and ask me if they should buy it, I know what I am talking about when I give them an answer.

 

[Mgavin1985]

I think we are all fortunate to be addicted to buying and trying detailing products. Everyone has there vices this is a mild harmless one. We should added to this what are neighbors think about us. Mine do not understand why I would need to wash my car more than once a quarter and wax more once a year. I keep trying to tell them if your lucky that wax your using is only going to protect for about a month. Well the one guy uses megs ultimate that’s probably best over counter that’s lasting more than a month.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

I think we are all fortunate to be addicted to buying and trying detailing products. Everyone has there vices this is a mild harmless one. We should added to this what are neighbors think about us. Mine do not understand why I would need to wash my car more than once a quarter and wax more once a year. I keep trying to tell them if your lucky that wax your using is only going to protect for about a month. Well the one guy uses megs ultimate that’s probably best over counter that’s lasting more than a month.

My bank account does not see this as mild


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[UncleDavy]

I think we are all fortunate to be addicted to buying and trying detailing products. Everyone has there vices this is a mild harmless one. We should added to this what are neighbors think about us. Mine do not understand why I would need to wash my car more than once a quarter and wax more once a year. I keep trying to tell them if your lucky that wax your using is only going to protect for about a month. Well the one guy uses megs ultimate that’s probably best over counter that’s lasting more than a month.

Amen to that. All of the people in my neighborhood know me as the guy who is always washing his cars in any kind of temperature. Now I have them coming up to me while they are walking their dogs asking about products I use or if I would work on their vehicles. They all ask me if I use Armor All products. Oh, the poor misguided souls. I explain the different higher level products on the market and that I buy most everything through Autogeek. More and more of my neighbors are finding a new appreciation for their vehicles and using higher quality products.

 

[ClearVue18]

My bank account does not see this as mild


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My bank account be like brah what you doing? Relax lol

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[BudgetPlan1]

I actually dont think I've bought anything 'substantial' in 2019, the cupboard is somewhat bare. Still a PA Cosmic kit in there but that's about it for coatings.

Still have a few things at work I gotta clear out and bring home, mostly some new polishes/compounds that I gave a try.

As someone mentioned, very few 'game changers' come along. HD One is OK, but not life altering, Megs 210 was OK but nothing monumental vs 205, CarPro ClearCut may be a keeper but can usually get same results with another liquid, albeit with a few more passes.

Beadmaker was good for a little entertainment and even early on I'm pretty sure Mothers CMX wont hold a candle to CanCoat so nothing substantial there.

The Kamikaze wool pad is a keeper but the compounds/polishes seem to be definite 'boutique' items, too pricey for frequent use and maybe too focused towards softer paints.

The Zipang coating looks like a winner *for me*, not so much because of the limited self healing alone but that aspect along with increased claimed longevity will probably allow me to extend my daily out another year w respect to re-do's and my wifes winter car will likely extend out another 2 years with it...which makes the added $$ if it worth it.

Lord knows my CC statements have been looking better lately. I remember adding up all my 'known' purchases at the end of 2017 and, well...let's just say I didnt do that again at the end of 2018.

Seems like a lot of 'new & revolutionary' stuff is incremental changes in most cases...but not all; and it's that last bit 'not all' that will likely keep me chasing Unicorns...but maybe at a slower rate. Hopefully.

Still have a coating or 2 I'm interested in, maybe try when weather warms up in a month or 2 but that's about it. As for 'new to me' things I've tried recently, Scholl S30 is probably a keeper as is Gtechniq C4 Trim coating and Gtechniq G1/G2 glass coating if they prove to be lasting. Very nice that you can get in smaller, 15ml bottles...about 1 cars worth. Very handy.

Will say that falling down this rabbit hole has given a bit more insight into my wifes occasional 'shopping as a hobby'; sometimes it's just plain fun to buy stuff, receive it and give it a go.

Getting kinda lonely on some of those shelves:

 

[392hemi]

I actually dont think I've bought anything 'substantial' in 2019, the cupboard is somewhat bare. Still a PA Cosmic kit in there but that's about it for coatings.

Still have a few things at work I gotta clear out and bring home, mostly some new polishes/compounds that I gave a try.

As someone mentioned, very few 'game changers' come along. HD One is OK, but not life altering, Megs 210 was OK but nothing monumental vs 205, CarPro ClearCut may be a keeper but can usually get same results with another liquid, albeit with a few more passes.

Beadmaker was good for a little entertainment and even early on I'm pretty sure Mothers CMX wont hold a candle to CanCoat so nothing substantial there.

The Kamikaze wool pad is a keeper but the compounds/polishes seem to be definite 'boutique' items, too pricey for frequent use and maybe too focused towards softer paints.

The Zipang coating looks like a winner *for me*, not so much because of the limited self healing alone but that aspect along with increased claimed longevity will probably allow me to extend my daily out another year w respect to re-do's and my wifes winter car will likely extend out another 2 years with it...which makes the added $$ if it worth it.

Lord knows my CC statements have been looking better lately. I remember adding up all my 'known' purchases at the end of 2017 and, well...let's just say I didnt do that again at the end of 2018.

Seems like a lot of 'new & revolutionary' stuff is incremental changes in most cases...but not all; and it's that last bit 'not all' that will likely keep me chasing Unicorns...but maybe at a slower rate. Hopefully.

Still have a coating or 2 I'm interested in, maybe try when weather warms up in a month or 2 but that's about it.

Getting kinda lonely on some of those shelves:

I agree with you, no new products that are ground breaking for me . I'm testing out CMX vs PNS

Mothers CMX vs Sonax Polymer Net Shield long term durability test

If CMX doesn't fare well, I'll stick to PNS and BSD or possibly try UK3.0 which seems best bang for my situation.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

I agree with you, no new products that are ground breaking for me . I'm testing out CMX vs PNS


If CMX doesn't fare well, I'll stick to PNS and BSD or possibly try UK3.0 which seems best bang for my situation.

Ignore my PM as it appears CMX is something you don't need. Oops...