In dire need of help: Cannot remove holograms after polishing. Recommend me new polishes

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So all in all Im not doing anything different than Ive done in past years. With that being said: why am I getting holograms and what looks to be marring/swirling? This is what Im wondering

1. could my LC flat pads be bad, they've been used a lot.
2. could they have dirt embedded in them? I clean them well after use
3. Could my polish be old/issue with it?
4. Ive tried to go slower, faster, more pressure, less pressure etc, and nothing.

I think Im going to buy new pads, and polish. I use SSR1 and SSR2 for years without issues, but starting to think there is an issue somewhere. Im using a PC DA and I also have SONAX EX 04-06

Suggestions on how to fix this truck/remove those holograms and marring/swirls?

Can you guys recommend an EASY to use polish that breaks down fast/I dont have to work forever. Is there something I can use/work in the sun so I can check for marring/holograms without moving the truck each to to inspect.

Also should I go with LC flat pads again too?
 
Just to chime in....

Not so much for you but for everyone that will read this thread into the future.....

The word HOLOGRAM is specific to the scratch pattern inflicted into car paint (or other surfaces), via a rotary buffer.


Orbital polishers to not put holograms into car paint. Orbital polishers can leave micro-marring which will show up in a pattern that mimics the direction you moved the polisher over the paint but these trails or patterns and this type of scratch patter is not holograms.


Here's my article on this topic,

The word holograms means a specific scratch pattern inflicted into paint using a rotary buffer


Here's want holograms look like

watermark.php





:)
 
More...

Here's want extreme micro-marring looks like (from bad abrasive technology)


Micro-Marring - Tick-Marks - DA-Haze

These three terms are pretty much the accepted terms for a scratch pattern left in some paints from the oscillating and rotating action from a compound or polish and a buffing pad when applied using a DA Polisher.

Unlike Cobweb swirls or Rotary Buffer Swirls, the scratch pattern instilled by a dual action polisher is made up of millions of tiny scratches, some are curved or circular but some are straight, like a small tick mark you would make with a pencil if you were keeping track of a count of some type.

Tick Marks are a sign that either the paint is on the soft side, so easily scratched or the pad and compound or polish you're using are too aggressive to finish out without leaving a mark.

In most cases Tick Marks can be removed by re-polishing with a different pad and product combination.

MicromarringTickMarks01.jpg


MicromarringTickMarks02.jpg



More on this in my article here,

The difference between Rotary Buffer Swirls, Cobweb Swirls, Micro-Marring, DA Haze & Tick Marks


:)
 
If you're using any brand of orbital polisher then what you are seeing is micro-marring.

If its the pads, and the paint is soft and assuming you're using quality compounds, polishes and/or AIOs, then it could be

Pad Haze

Pad haze is like micro-marring only caused by the pad. The appearance will be the same.


:)
 
Mike Phillips said:
If you're using any brand of orbital polisher then what you are seeing is micro-marring.

If its the pads, and the paint is soft and assuming you're using quality compounds, polishes and/or AIOs, then it could be

Pad Haze

Pad haze is like micro-marring only caused by the pad. The appearance will be the same.


:)
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Thanks! Im using a PC 7424XP with LC flat pads. Im using Poorboys SSR1 and Sonax Perfect Finish ( I think ) I know its sonax though.... Ive tried both. it definitely looks like holograms. Maybe its just the DA micro-marring as you're saying... It has to be since thats what Im using, a DA...

Im wondering if my polisher is bad/broken? Not oscillating right?

What
 
What color LC pads are you using to finish out? And then specifically what polish?
 
I used white LC flat 5.5" pads and used SSR1 from Poorboys. Ive used this combos for many times and never had an issue.... Maybe I should go back, slow down and use the SONAX EX 04-06 ? On a white or black/blue flat 5.5"? Or would the white be needed to get the marring out..


ALSO what should I use to clean the panel for inspection? I noticed that Im getting some smearing/ghosting from the polish. which makes me think that Im using too much polish maybe or not working it long enough to use it up/burn it out....
 
Lol confusion here. I've worked on this paint before, it's my personal vehicle. I'm not sure what changed. I'm thinking maybe there is an issue with the polisher. What, I'm not sure. I'm thinking it's not oscillating correctly possibly.

I bought a GG6 today, and I'll see how that works. I'm going to use LC flat white pads and the sonax 04-06.

I think maybe I'm also using too much product
 
That was going to be my guess, too much product. Try three dime sized dots and do six slow arm passes and everything should clear up. Good luck.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
That was going to be my guess, too much product. Try three dime sized dots and do six slow arm passes and everything should clear up. Good luck.
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Thanks. Yeah... Not sure what happened. Now when you say 6 is that 3 passes each of up down and left right cross hatch pattern?
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
Thanks! Im using a PC 7424XP with LC flat pads. Im using Poorboys SSR1 and Sonax Perfect Finish ( I think ) I know its sonax though.... Ive tried both. it definitely looks like holograms. Maybe its just the DA micro-marring as you're saying... It has to be since thats what Im using, a DA...

Im wondering if my polisher is bad/broken? Not oscillating right?

What
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You sure it's not your Lsp? They can cause what look like holograms in the sun. Buy a scan grip head lamp.
 
fightnews said:
You sure it's not your Lsp? They can cause what look like holograms in the sun. Buy a scan grip head lamp.
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I was thinking about that.... I used McKees 37. So I polised it off and it was still there. Thus me thinking it was something I did. But maybe it could be the paint coating...
 
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