Is duragloss 111 acrylic?

[FUNX650]

I would throw in that the concept of acrylic paint protection is foreign to the all the raw material manufacturers with whom I have spoken. I have international connections and no one can shed light on what would be in these so called 'acrylic' products.

I'll do some more reading but I remain a bit mystified by the 'acrylic' terminology which seems to be lacking support in technical literature.

Your thoughts on the below posting would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

This is a response by Dr. G on Optimumforums to a questions about Polymers Vs Acrylics

Thank you for your question. I try to answer this without too much technical jargon. The products you mentioned contain polyethylene-acrylic acid which is still a polymer yet very different from what is used in the Optimum line. Polyethylene is the base in these products which is also used in candle making. The acrylic acid portion will provide substantivity which in turn results in durability versus just using polyehtylene based products.

The main difference with the polymers we use vs polyethylene-acrylics is that there is no cross-linking with polyethylene-acrylics. However, with the polymers we use, they will cross-link and cure within 24 hours to create a 3-dimensional matrix. This is valid for the Optimum Car Wax, Poli-Seal, and Opti-Seal. The latter cures much faster due to new technologies that we developed over the past two years.

Another benefit is cross-linking between layers so that if you add a layer of Opti-Seal or Optimum Car Wax on top of Opti-Seal, Poli-Seal, or Optimum Car Wax it wil bond to the previous layer(s). This can not be done with polyethylene-acrylics since there is no cross-linking capability in this technology.

The one advantage polyehtylene-acrylics offer is that since they are acidic by natue, they hold up better to acid rain, however, at the same time since they are acidic, they can cause minor etching of the paint. All and all, for the above reasons, our entire line is free of polyehtylene-acrylics and therefore all of the products in the Optimum line are compatible with each other.

Acrylics vs. Polymer - Ask the Optimum Experts - Optimum Forum

Bob

 

[PiPUK]

Bob,

Not sure what to make of that, to be honest. It is nice to read someone knowledgable giving some sort of confirmation that acrylic chemistry is, indeed, a thing but I remain curious as to just how it is so commonly occurring in the market yet so thoroughly unavailable (in my investigations) of the raw materials market. The post above does throw up some curiosities though. Whilst what is stated may well be true of the raw products, I am sure Dr G knows well that finished products have endless additives and I could certainly name a few which would be able to facilitate crosslinking in an acrylic system. As such, I don't see any reason why curing is an unreasonable claim, likewise, adhesion promoters could make layering possible.

I am also interested in what Optimum is using for polymers. Much of what was discussed in there will be applicable to the siloxane chemistries. I should note that such products are hardly new or all that boutique - Meguiars have had them for years.

 

[FUNX650]

PiPUK...

Thank you for your thoughts regarding the "acrylics posting".

Once again: It's good to be able to gain valuable insight---the peeling back of another layer of the Chemical onion, as it were---about detailing products, from the information you willingly provide.

Bob

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Not sure what to make of that, to be honest.

Dr. G wrote that 7 years ago, for whatever that's worth. As I noted in another thread, if Optimum made the only sealants that "layer", then that is NEWS in the detailing world, and certainly Optimum would have trumpeted it a bit louder, even if they are the lowest-key marketer in the game (well, ok, perhaps tied with Duragloss on that front).

 

[silverfox]

The bottom line is that people are going to do whatever they want, despite what the knowledgeable people recommend. Its no different than smoking or drinking or getting hooked on needless detailing products.