Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

Update on the Jade Graphene Pro

Photo from the day after it was pulled out of the garage.

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Final walk around the day after.


Nice beading for Jade Graphene Pro from the first wash.

Calibrated eye says about 120

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Topped off with Adams Graphene Detail Spray

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First wash video

 
That first pic was incredible, even made the emblem big....oh wait, it was already

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As someone that works in another industry where Graphene will begin making its headway, it is definitely the next big thing. In fact if cost barriers didn't exist, it would replace so many goods that currently exist. If you ever want to head down a rabbit hole, check out some of the graphene tests.

Spider webs that support human weight
Apply across a football field and yet weight is about the same as coins.

Anything where light weight meets heavy protection, Graphene will be a huge player. The problem is currently, most cannot work with the chemical side and the cost side to get it in place for consumer goods. In the auto care space, very few have been able to get there, one being B&B. Over the next couple of years, I would expect just about every company to have a Graphene product.

Currently some other areas are working to get there. Skis and golf equipment in sports. Cell phones in electronics. Window treatments such as tints (for homes). Outdoor living items.

It is a product that surpasses so many others in terms of tensile strength that it is literally stronger than the material your car is made of, by A LOT. It is in fact the strongest material ever discovered and as costs come down and chemists learn to work with it, the entirety of what can be done in the consumer space is mind boggling.
 
I am getting close to three months on my 303 graphene application that I made to my car, and it still was beading like crazy and looks great. And this is just with one coat of the product. Until the next big thing, I’ll stay with this, I also like the fact that it’s pretty cheap as opposed to the more high end stuff which I’m sure will have better durability, I don’t mind putting this on every 4 to 6 months. I use a red soft pad on a cordless orbital and it spreads super easy… The only minor downside is it seems to separate in the bottle very quickly, so I’m shaking it up every time that I put it on the car, or on the pad. My sprayer also broke on the 303 bottle.
 
glen e said:
I am getting close to three months on my 303 graphene application that I made to my car, and it still was beading like crazy and looks great. And this is just with one coat of the product. Until the next big thing, I’ll stay with this, I also like the fact that it’s pretty cheap as opposed to the more high end stuff which I’m sure will have better durability, I don’t mind putting this on every 4 to 6 months. I use him a red soft pad on a cordless orbital and it spreads super easy…
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I agree with you. I have 303 on my DD since November 2020 and had my first wash a few days back. It is still strong from I can tell and my car sits outside 24/7. In general, I would use a high PH pre soak to soften the road grime prior to a contact wash on vehicle that hasnt been wash for a while but I didnt have to with this.

For the price and the potential longevity (1 year - Not sure if it would last that long in my case), its very hard to beat for a DD.
 
I'm glad you guys are getting great results with the 303 graphene spray, a detailer is in the works along with soap and tire dressing (a little bird flew by and was chirping about it, stay "tuned")

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glen e said:
I am getting close to three months on my 303 graphene application that I made to my car, and it still was beading like crazy and looks great. And this is just with one coat of the product. Until the next big thing, I’ll stay with this, I also like the fact that it’s pretty cheap as opposed to the more high end stuff which I’m sure will have better durability, I don’t mind putting this on every 4 to 6 months. I use a red soft pad on a cordless orbital and it spreads super easy… The only minor downside is it seems to separate in the bottle very quickly, so I’m shaking it up every time that I put it on the car, or on the pad. My sprayer also broke on the 303 bottle.
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Can we get some pics of the beading?

I’ve only seen it on a test panel and i wasn’t too impressed for a coating.

Coulda been application error and tester didnt seem two enthusiastic. Wanna see some pics from people who are impressed.


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This was from a light rain.
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I finally pulled my 303 graphene bottle out of the shipping bag. I had an extra hour or so on Saturday afternoon and decided to try out the 303 Graphene on our Range Rover Sport. 303 went on fast and easy. Wiping it off took a bit of effort, definitely more effort than just your regular all-in-one or other finishing product. When I got it all cleaned off, WOW! It made the black Rover look amazing. I got three unsolicited comments from people I didn't know when parked in the local Trader Joe's parking lot. I will monitor the durability. The Rover sits out every evening and we are about 1/2 mile from the coast. The AIOs, Blackfire and HD Speed are so easy to apply and clean off, but they just don't hold up with the humid salty air. Photo to follow. So far, it is two thumbs up. My neighbor picked up a bottle of Turtle Wax Graphene and used it on his BMW X-5, we will see how they compare in a month or two. Phil
 
Well, so much for my 303 Graphene excitement. This is my real life assessment. This is not a youtuber "let's wash this old hood twelve times in a row and call it a three month test." It has been exactly one month since I applied the 303 Graphene to our Range Rover Sport, Santorini Black. The Rover sits outside most of the time. We are near the coast and get a breeze off the ocean every afternoon. I typically do a weekly hand-wash. It was rained a couple of days and we had fairly heavy evening dew several evenings. At first application, the paint looked better than showroom. It really looked amazing. After the first two weeks, the beading was still great. I had great hope for a 6 month or yearlong paint protectant, as advertised.........well, as they say, "not so fast." Third week, beading started breaking down a bit. This last week, there was a very visible drop in beading and sheeting. Frankly, I didn't notice much difference that the HD Speed or Blackfire One Step. Both of those products are easier to remove than the 303 Graphene. I will give it one more week and then maybe top it with something to get some beading back. I know that the So Cal Sun and ocean air take a toll on coating and protectants, but I was very surprised that the 303 Graphene didn't hold up better.
 
I would say the sun and salt water play a factor. What was the prep work before application. FWIW I applied the 303 spray graphene 2x's before winter, about 2 weeks inbetween and after 3 months of Chicagoland winter it was still doing its thing.

The advertised "1 year durability" is for the semi DD or toy car and for a real DD a $25.00 bottle product isn't going to last a year, no way, no how. Prep is important and since it's so easy to apply why not just do it every other month in those harsh conditions

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As I recall, I used the Rupes Yellow Polish with a Yellow Rupes pad. I then used the White Rupes Polish with the White Rupes Pad. Then I applied the 303 Graphene. I did a similar prep process on my friend's late-model 911. His 911 is garage kept except when he is driving it. It has held up much better on the 911, again, in almost laboratory conditions.......
 
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As I recall, I used the Rupes Yellow Polish with a Yellow Rupes pad. I then used the White Rupes Polish with the White Rupes Pad. Then I applied the 303 Graphene. I did a similar prep process on my friend's late-model 911. His 911 is garage kept except when he is driving it. It has held up much better on the 911, again, in almost laboratory conditions.......
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Yeah that's the 1 yr sideDid you decon your car?

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lj993 said:
Well, so much for my 303 Graphene excitement. This is my real life assessment. This is not a youtuber "let's wash this old hood twelve times in a row and call it a three month test." It has been exactly one month since I applied the 303 Graphene to our Range Rover Sport, Santorini Black. The Rover sits outside most of the time. We are near the coast and get a breeze off the ocean every afternoon. I typically do a weekly hand-wash. It was rained a couple of days and we had fairly heavy evening dew several evenings. At first application, the paint looked better than showroom. It really looked amazing. After the first two weeks, the beading was still great. I had great hope for a 6 month or yearlong paint protectant, as advertised.........well, as they say, "not so fast." Third week, beading started breaking down a bit. This last week, there was a very visible drop in beading and sheeting. Frankly, I didn't notice much difference that the HD Speed or Blackfire One Step. Both of those products are easier to remove than the 303 Graphene. I will give it one more week and then maybe top it with something to get some beading back. I know that the So Cal Sun and ocean air take a toll on coating and protectants, but I was very surprised that the 303 Graphene didn't hold up better.
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The reality is a spray on product is not going to be that durable. You would have to reach for a dedicated graphene coating if you desire to try a graphene form of protection. I will be up front and say that I was never intrigued by 303 graphene as I just personally see no long term performance out of it. The only benefit is that it is a spray and that it can be used as often as possible. I would easily take Gyeon CanCoat over 303 graphene any day of the week.
 
The Guz said:
The reality is a spray on product is not going to be that durable. You would have to reach for a dedicated graphene coating if you desire to try a graphene form of protection. I will be up front and say that I was never intrigued by 303 graphene as I just personally see no long term performance out of it. The only benefit is that it is a spray and that it can be used as often as possible. I would easily take Gyeon CanCoat over 303 graphene any day of the week.
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I got atleast 4 monthes out of 303 spray graphene

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Well we will always disagree. I wouldn’t touch Cancoat , I didn’t like it , it was too finicky to put on , so put me in the camp of wanting to use 303 “any day of the week”. I’m going on five months with my 303 and it still looks fine.

I don’t think the 303 is the end-all cure-all, or a “breakthrough”…I see it getting the similar result is blackfire Si02, or a couple other sprays that I’ve used. But I don’t think it is any worse and at 15 bucks or so, it’s much cheaper than many of them.
 
At $15.00-$20.00 you could apply 303 spray graphene every other month and not be out any money I haven't tried CanCoat but I'm sure it works nicely

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Klasse Act said:
I got atleast 4 monthes out of 303 spray graphene

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On top of a 2 year coating... hard to tell anythings their as the coating still shows up in my experience.


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glen e said:
Well we will always disagree. I wouldn’t touch Cancoat , I didn’t like it , it was too finicky to put on , so put me in the camp of wanting to use 303 “any day of the week”. I’m going on five months with my 303 and it still looks fine.

I don’t think the 303 is the end-all cure-all, or a “breakthrough”…I see it getting the similar result is blackfire Si02, or a couple other sprays that I’ve used. But I don’t think it is any worse and at 15 bucks or so, it’s much cheaper than many of them.
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Still waiting for pics if it’s doing so well.... seen plenty of evidence in CanCoat in terms of pics pass 6 months.... would love to see some of 303 if it’s doing so well. I hear people say it’s lasted past 3 months but yet to see some pics....

That’s what swayed me to try CanCoat....


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I beta tested 303 Touchless sealant before it came out on my old car and got 3 monthes out of it. That car too was also coated. It was applied at the end of winter FWIW.

I'm not saying that 303 is the be all, end all but considering the price and ease of use, I can't see an issue here. Plus there's plenty applications left in the bottle whereas the spray on, hose off products are a one time use

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