Is it ok to top HD Speed with a sealant?


Why top a coating? Isn't that silly?

Why top a sealant? Isn't that silly?

Why layer products? Isn't that silly?

AIO's are designed to fit a certain segment of the detailing landscape.

So I don't understand the need to bash a product or a product segment.

This isn't directed towards anyone, just an observation from my time on the forum.
 
I say I don't understand why people like it so much because of my personal and extensive history with the product. Also M205 is a far different horse than Speed so it's really not that comparable, although it might seem to be at first glance. M205 was always good and worked as advertised, actually better since day one. I can't say the same about Speed, in all my testing of it, it never performed as advertised at all. I've had these same arguments many times over about 7 or 8 years ago when Speed first came out, it's crazy how the same things pop up again.

Also, isn't it just silly and totally defeats the purpose of an AIO if you need to top it with something? You're far better off using a good polish and a sealant.

I like and use M205 but I'm more interested in the gentler cleaning properties of 360 (or other AIO) and not so much the protection. I treat an AIO as a cleaner wax, mainly to take road film off to be topped with a more durable wax. Is there something with the limited cut (to save the clear coat) of an AIO that can be used to polish marring and cleaning road film?
 
Why top a coating? Isn't that silly?

Why top a sealant? Isn't that silly?

Why layer products? Isn't that silly?

AIO's are designed to fit a certain segment of the detailing landscape.

So I don't understand the need to bash a product or a product segment.

This isn't directed towards anyone, just an observation from my time on the forum.

Thank you!

If I don't like a song on the radio, I change the station.

If I don't like a certain food, I don't eat it.

If I don't like a particular detailing product, I don't use it.

Move on...........
 
Is there something with the limited cut (to save the clear coat) of an AIO that can be used to polish marring and cleaning road film?

Any finishing polish with a finishing pad should do the trick.

Products I've used after polishing with HD Speed that have lasted at least 6 months.

M37 Hi-def paint sealant

If that works then I should be ok. I’m going to do some testing hopefully tonight when I get home.
 
Why top a coating? Isn't that silly?

Why top a sealant? Isn't that silly?

Why layer products? Isn't that silly?

AIO's are designed to fit a certain segment of the detailing landscape.

So I don't understand the need to bash a product or a product segment.

This isn't directed towards anyone, just an observation from my time on the forum.

I don't think anyone is trying to bash a product or product segment. In my mind an AIO is just that, a one step polish and sealant/wax in one product and process. I feel if someone is going to do another step (sealant) in addition to an AIO, you would get better results and longevity from a dedicated polish step first and then apply a good sealant. AIO products do serve a good purpose for certain situations.
 
I don't think anyone is trying to bash a product or product segment. In my mind an AIO is just that, a one step polish and sealant/wax in one product and process. I feel if someone is going to do another step (sealant) in addition to an AIO, you would get better results and longevity from a dedicated polish step first and then apply a good sealant. AIO products do serve a good purpose for certain situations.

Like I said, each product has it's place.

I can do an aio and sealant easily in half to 2/3rds the time of a polish and sealant.

I have my own method of doing the steps that reduces the over all time on the job.

Negativity and posting about products saying I've read blah blah and without actually having personally used the products which I see happen frequently on our forum is open for discussion. I've read hundreds of posts like that since being here. Including in this thread.
 
I think the general makeup of an AIO had shortcomings all around. Less cut than a polish, less protection than a sealant. Honestly other than time savings I see no advantage in an AIO at all.

It seems your missing the point, you need to understand why AIO's. You are completley missing the point, which is obvious by our above post. That's exactly why they exist. A little polish, a little cut and a little protection.

If you ever happen to be in the Tampa Bay area drivnig down here here in your daily driver let me know, I'll give your personal daily driver a free aio treatment, to atleast one panel. :buffing:
 
If you can't comprehend or understand why AIO's exist for you are completley missing the point, which is obvious by our above post. That's exactly why they exist. A little polish, a little cut and a little protection.

You should really read before replying. The purpose of an AIO is to save time, which is exactly what i said.
 
What ever guys, get over the AIO issue, go detail something.
 
You should really read before replying. The purpose of an AIO is to save time, which is exactly what i said.

Hummmm...Well in many cases, an AIO CAN produce outstanding results in transforming paint from trashed to well over 60 to 70%...! This is some serious transformation!

See link below...

2013 Silverado 2500 + HD Speed

Is it perfect? No. But sure is "so much" better than your average vehicle one sees on the road!!!

Tom
 
What ever guys, get over the AIO issue, go detail something.

.....I am. I just finished giving my car a bucket wash and now I’m going to give it a quik clay with the towel. Not because it needs it, but because I think I may have screwed up another clay towel by having it on my detail cart this past weekend while I was doing that Denali. Clay towel was laying in direct sun ☀️ and now look at it.

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Once I’m done testing the clay towel I’m going to do something I never thought I’d ever do again... Polish my car with an AIO.lol.
 
.....I am. I just finished giving my car a bucket wash and now I’m going to give it a quik clay with the towel. Not because it needs it, but because I think I may have screwed up another clay towel by having it on my detail cart this past weekend while I was doing that Denali. Clay towel was laying in direct sun ☀️ and now look at it.

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Once I’m done testing the clay towel I’m going to do something I never thought I’d ever do again... Polish my car with an AIO.lol.

Lol...

Try moderate arm movements and just 4 section passes and move on. Throw out the flashlight!

You might like it better since it going to be sooo fast.

Tom
 
Honestly the only reason I use AIOs even though I usually put something on top is because it's so much easier when you can do the whole car before wiping. I'm not aware of a straight up polish you can let dry like that.
 
Someone mentioned the new Blackfire One Step? Shall we have a 3 way duel?

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Lol...

Try moderate arm movements and just 4 section passes and move on. Throw out the flashlight!

You might like it better since it going to be sooo fast.

Tom

You must have psychic powers.... I just found my flashlight after it had been missing for almost 2 weeks! It’s coming with me.lol.

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Honestly the only reason I use AIOs even though I usually put something on top is because it's so much easier when you can do the whole car before wiping. I'm not aware of a straight up polish you can let dry like that.

You can but you want to wipe as you go to get feedback before getting too far down the road. Some spots may need just a tad more section passes than other spots. Constant feedback will save you time over the long run.

Tom
 
Agreed but I only really do my own car which I've already done a full correction on so I'm only looking to clean up super light wash marring every few months. Doesn't really matter to me if one part of the car is 91% corrected and another is 93%. I'm just looking for something quick and easy!
 
Agreed but I only really do my own car which I've already done a full correction on so I'm only looking to clean up super light wash marring every few months. Doesn't really matter to me if one part of the car is 91% corrected and another is 93%. I'm just looking for something quick and easy!

Already done a full correction?

Ok...that wasn't clear from your other post but in that case, should be just fine.

I would not polish a car that often. Just once a year will be plenty. But you can if you want or if the marring is too obvious...

Tom
 
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