is it okay to use the nano polish on any finish?

SpoiledMan said:
I don't understand???
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haha sorry... I was agreeing with you...

Good luck explaining that the 2 polishes don't leave a noticeable difference on 99.9% cc's out there...
 
Ivan, some understand and some don't. It's probably 100% though.;)
 
let me start by saying that i dont want to leave this car with 2 microns of clear coat so that when the next guy buys if from me the clear is going to fail, what can i say, im a nice guy. so, i always look for the least agressive ways to get the job done, i think for a soft clear coat, 106 has a bit to much cut, i would prefer to have a polish that has a cut of 1 and gloss of 5, which is basicly what the menzerna apo 60, but it has wax in there, it would be alright but i dont know how good of a wax that 60 has in it. anyways, i think that there is a big diffrence between two polishes that have a diffrence of 1 on the cut scale.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Ivan, some understand and some don't. It's probably 100% though.;)
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if there is no diffrence, than why are their cut levels diffrent.
 
First, the difference is in the *initial* cut. That would be what degree of defects the polish is able to remove. The more *cut* that it has the more work it is capable of. The amount of cut that 106 has is low. Measurements taken by other prominent detailers using compound and wool pads yielded *NO* detectable differences in CC thickness before and after multi step polishing.

Second, you're not going to polish away all the CC on your car using something as mild as 106 anytime in the near or not so near future. Relax and enjoy using it. If you think it's too aggressive, move on with a paint cleaner.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
if there is no diffrence, than why are their cut levels diffrent.
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See what I'm talking about spoiled... I'll try one last time.

The cut levels are based on a certain pad and rotary machine. It's a good guideline with which you can compare the polishes and see what you would need to correct a certain defect.

You WILL NOT, I repeat, WILL NOT, remove more than .00000001% of the clearcoat, if you use a PC, a white LC pad, and 106ff... of course that .00000001% is an exaggeration, but unless you keep that combo on top of the paint, in the same spot, for 2 hours, the exaggeration is very close to the truth.

Joy, this is the type of question I'm talking about... again and again you keep asking people why they have the opinions they have on the experiences they had... it makes no sense.. why do you like a BMW, why did you buy it?, etc. etc... catch my drift ?

We're trying to help you here buddy, but 6 guys repeating 1 thing 10 times is a bit annoying.

EDIT: just saw spoiled post up there and I completely agree... if you're going to keep repeating that 106ff is too aggressive, get zymol HD cleanse and you're done.
 
I also posted pictures above of cars that have "soft" CC's. The Bimmer in particular has paint so soft that if you press your finger to the paint it leaves marring that you have to polish out. I used 106 in some areas (repaired body work) and the others were finish with RE5 (not available on our shores). There is no difference in the panels finished with either polish. The owner is *very* picky and would have hung me out to dry if there had been.
 
I have heard when you polish a car you can easily remove 3 to 4 microns. I bet that if i used 106 with a med pad i would remove about .5 microns, of course depending on the hardness of the clear coat and the type of pad you use + speed and power of the machine + how large the orbit is, most paint depth gauges are not accurate to the point where they can detect the amount of clear coat removed during polishing, meaning yes it is not significant, it is hundreds of times smaller than your hair, but remember, clear coat is about as thick as a plastic bag, if not thinner.I will use the 106 and see what it does.
 
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Thejoyofdriving said:
I have heard when you polish a car you can easily remove 3 to 4 microns. I bet that if i used 106 with a med pad i would remove about .5 microns.
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What do you want to bet ?
 
SpoiledMan said:
Ivan, that's just the thread the I've been searching for.:)
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It won't help unfortunately... Joy will THINK that Joe's in an incompetent detailer and microns aren't mils, and Joe's paint gage doesn't work good, and... unsubscribe
 
scratches are easily 6 to 10 microns deep, and even deeper, to round off the edges of the scratch, i would guess you need to level the area around the scratch to probably half of its depth, if it is a light scratch. How do i know my clear coat is soft? wel there are two reasons, first one is this "
[FONT=arial, verdana]Are German clear coats "soft"?[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, verdana] Yes, they are. At least, softer than U.S. clear coats. In the U.S. there are three major paint suppliers to the automakers. PPG (#1), Dupont (#2), and BASF (a distant third). Both PPG and Dupont have focused on creating super-hard clear coats. These "rigid" clears are more resistant to chemical etching which makes them less susceptible to acid rain spots and owner induced swirls from washing and drying improperly. The disadvantage of rigid clears is their susceptibility to chip when struck by stones or road debris.[/FONT]
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Perhaps because of the Autobahn and Germany's higher speed limits, German automakers have settled on a less rigid, or more elastic, clear coat. German clear coats are less likely to chip when impacted by road debris but are more susceptible to swirls if treated improperly."- Are German Paints Different?
 
That source must be old as hell. Have you ever polished a German car with ceramiclear paint??? Hard stuff man. The clear on your car isn't that soft at all. I see lots of different makes, models and even colors of the same cars. The soft stuff in the BMW camp are the solid colors. Metallic colors seem to be on the mid to hard side.

I'm done with this. You either get it or you don't. There's been plenty of examples and explanations here to help you along.

Did you bother to read this page while you were on that site?Menzerna PO106FF. Germany's top polish
 
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Thejoyofdriving said:
my car does not have a ceramiclear coat.
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You should really think before you type, you're coming off very ignorant... I am as well done with this thread... best of luck to you.
 
all i am saying is that the particals in the 106 are sharp so they can cut into ceramiclear, since my car does not have it, it will eat in more.
 
Audi and vw has a really hard clear coat!! I know, because I have a audi and one vw. And have detailed a lot of them. They are hard as rock. Better find your rotary and a orange pad!! And 106ff did the work for me!
 
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