Is More Foam and Soap Better? Meguiars Gold Class in the MTM Hydro Foam Cannon

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqvLEVH7D_M]Is More Car Soap Better? Meguiars Gold Class Car Shampoo in the MTM Hydro Foam Cannon ! - YouTube[/video]

Some people wonder if they load their bottle with soap if it will produce thicker foam, which in turn should cling better. Also if you saturate the panel with snow foam that it will cling more and thus clean more. A few months ago we decided to test it out for ourselves, Andrew a fellow detailer is the one foaming the van while I recorded. We loaded a bottle with 4" / ~16 oz of Meg's Gold Class Wash diluted the rest with warm water coupled with his gas power washer model shown at the end of the video. We then recreated something along the lines of a blizzard and avalanche.

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Overall I found this to simply be a waste of soap, the soap wasn't any thicker than what I typically use Gold Class at which is 4 oz due to it's low dilution ratio of 1 oz per gallon. Repeatedly foaming the panel with excessive amounts of snow foam didn't produce a cleaner surface or any better clinging action. One thing I can be sure of is that full coverage was met lol (for the panel). We chose the van as it would be the toughest match being vertical while also giving a nice big canvas to observe the soap.

Would love to hear your thoughts on foaming a vehicle and what you find works best for you?

Bonus foaming videos

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNwTG_5fIDs]Meguiars Foam Cannon #62 Car Wash Shampoo Foaming Off-Roading SUV - YouTube[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMxGEidNiGE]SON1C Wax ProtoFoam 1 : Home Made Snow Foam Car Wash - Foaming Ford Edge - YouTube[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxs-OgFppBw]CarPro Iron-X Soap Gel Review in Wash Bucket and MTM Hydro Foam Cannon SON1C Synopsis 72 - YouTube[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd0Ru4WfG0I]Chemical Guys Maxi-Suds II 2 MTM Hydro Foam Cannon Gun Torch Red Ford Mustang - YouTube[/video]
 
I view "foaming" as just another form of entertainment. And...Considering the costs to have all of the necessary "foaming-tools/supplies": Can become an expensive proposition.

Just hope our Good Ol' Uncle Sam doesn't start levying an
Entertainment Tax on the: Folks that be a-foaming! :eek:

Bob
 
What is your bottom line recommendation for foam cannon soap? You've done a bunch of demos. For me its about cleaning ability and not about the foam. I still prefer a Gilmour foam gun coupled with single bucket rinse only bucket.
 
FUNX725 said:
I view "foaming" as just another form of entertainment. And...Considering the costs to have all of the necessary "foaming-tools/supplies": Can become an expensive proposition.

Just hope our Good Ol' Uncle Sam doesn't start levying an
Entertainment Tax on the: Folks that be a-foaming! :eek:

Bob
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So the foamed soap won't do anything in your opinion? I think the general idea is the foam will suspend loose dirt particles until you rinse. Why wont it do that? Does it need agitation? Enlighten me here. Thanks :confused:
 
wlshephard said:
So the foamed soap won't do anything in your opinion? I think the general idea is the foam will suspend loose dirt particles until you rinse. Why wont it do that? Does it need agitation? Enlighten me here. Thanks :confused:
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-If the dirt particles are "loose", they won't need to be suspended by some foam---SUDS, as it used to be called. A stream of water from a hose, or pressure washer, will be all that it takes.

-I'll aver that Foam [aka: Suds] doesn't do the cleaning.
Where did the idea, that they do, originate from?

-Yes...In my experience:
"Agitation" is needed to remove contaminates like
road film, bug exoskeletons, bird defecation, etc.

-How in the World did we ever clean (wash) our vehicles,
before we became fraught with this foaming-frenzy?
Wasn't the two-bucket system enough to worry about!

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
-If the dirt particles are "loose", they won't need to be suspended by some foam---SUDS, as it used to be called. A stream of water from a hose, or pressure washer, will be all that it takes.

-I'll aver that Foam [aka: Suds] doesn't do the cleaning.
Where did the idea, that they do, originate from?

-Yes...In my experience:
"Agitation" is needed to remove contaminates like
road film, bug exoskeletons, bird defecation, etc.



-How in the World did we ever clean (wash) our vehicles,
before we became fraught with this foaming-frenzy?
Wasn't the two-bucket system enough to worry about!

Bob
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Thanks for the info.
 
FUNX725 said:
I view "foaming" as just another form of entertainment. And...Considering the costs to have all of the necessary "foaming-tools/supplies": Can become an expensive proposition.

Just hope our Good Ol' Uncle Sam doesn't start levying an
Entertainment Tax on the: Folks that be a-foaming! :eek:

Bob
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I agree completely. I also agree that I am very entertained by using my foam cannon. I will do less than 10 cars a year that are not my own, so I enjoy anything that will give me something extra to experiment on..
 
cshamilton said:
I agree completely. I also agree that I am very entertained by using my foam cannon. I will do less than 10 cars a year that are not my own, so I enjoy anything that will give me something extra to experiment on..
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Well I'm so very happy for you then! :xyxthumbs:

Bob
 
Lol, I too get great joy out of watching the foam "work"

Sent from my XT1030 using AG Online
 
FUNX725 said:
Well I'm so very happy for you then! :xyxthumbs:

Bob
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I'm also a tightwad and agree that if I didn't have one I wouldn't buy one. I was very disappointed when I realized its limitations.


Still fun. And it makes me seem less crazy when my friends come over and the first thing they say is "ohh... You use a 5 gallon bucket, that's pretty serious" and then I get the second one out. I always feel insane when one of my friends come over. I get the foam cannon and they think my obsession is grounded. They love it.
 
Protofoam1...stuff looks sweet man. That is my first time seeing the video. Does it have a smell?
 
GreatAvalon said:
Protofoam1...stuff looks sweet man. That is my first time seeing the video. Does it have a smell?
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of course it does :D but I can't disclose it yet as it'll tie in tightly with the name for the current plans ;) Come over and try it out!


As far as the foaming debate I find foaming with a foam cannon to be incredibly useful for removing a ton of gunk grime dirt etc from the paintwork and in turn making hand washing much safer
 
SON1C said:
As far as the foaming debate...

I find foaming...

making hand washing much safer
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And...
I can't discount the fact that:
In the shower with "The Good Wife"...foam/suds/bubbles...
do make it more enjoyable! :D

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
And...
I can't discount the fact that:
In the shower with "The Good Wife"...foam/suds/bubbles...
do make it more enjoyable! :D

Bob
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lol agreed Bob, that certainly is something never to be discounted ! :laughing:
 
Hello, I also find foam essential but what about doing it without electric gun ? Any idea if if can work with a manual foam spray ? And which soap to use ? Thank you for your insight.
 
Has anyone ever done a comparison? Foam cannon vs just pressure washer with no soap? My guess would be that the results will be closer than expected.

Don
 
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