Is sealant dead?

Turtle Wax will outsell all of your coating...so please...


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FussMan said:
Turtle Wax will outsell all of your coating...so please...


:surrender::close1::doh:
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TW may out sell a coating but it doesn't make it better. Large scale sales means nothing. We are a group of Avid detailers and enthusiasts that enjoy what we do. There are different strokes for different folks. If your not for coatings that is fine. But some see them as the wave of the future. Look at Dodo pro series. They have taken the classic nuba and mixed it with newer Polymer sealant technology. Progress is part of life and this industry.

In the end: "Find what you like and use it often." - M.P.
 
TroyScherer said:
TW may out sell a coating but it doesn't make it better. Large scale sales means nothing. We are a group of Avid detailers and enthusiasts that enjoy what we do. There are different strokes for different folks. If your not for coatings that is fine. But some see them as the wave of the future. Look at Dodo pro series. They have taken the classic nuba and mixed it with newer Polymer sealant technology. Progress is part of life and this industry.

In the end: "Find what you like and use it often." - M.P.
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Thanks Troy! Obviously he hasnt tried a coating and probably never will. The coatings will never own market share and never will. But I have experienced performance that cant be approached by a sealant and/or a wax. I dont foresee ever going back to either. Guess I should have clarified that this post was rhetorical instead of literal. If performance was the only factor, nubas would have died with the advent of sealants!
 
Old Tiger said:
The coatings will never own market share and never will. But I have experienced performance that cant be approached by a sealant and/or a wax. I dont foresee ever going back to either. If performance was the only factor, nubas would have died with the advent of sealants!
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Very well said my friend!
 
There are some great answers and views in this thread. Some nonsense also. Minus the BS, great thread Jim!
 
I do not think sealant is dead. Nor is wax. Sealant, wax, and the new coatings all have there places. You definitely can't go wrong with these coatings though. They seem to be easy to use and very long lasting. Also take lots of work out of the equation such as winter prep. But I just prefer to put on wax and sealants every so often.
 
Dr Oldz said:
There are some great answers and views in this thread. Some nonsense also. Minus the BS, great thread Jim!
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Thanks Jim! I know you are a nuba guy but also use OC! I always appreciate your posts!
 
rider9195 said:
I do not think sealant is dead. Nor is wax. Sealant, wax, and the new coatings all have there places. You definitely can't go wrong with these coatings though. They seem to be easy to use and very long lasting. Also take lots of work out of the equation such as winter prep. But I just prefer to put on wax and sealants every so often.
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I totally understand! I was hesitant to try a coating for the same reason! The dust resistance was what turned me for good!
 
I really like these nano coatings, the only issue I see - is the price...it costs way too much...Maybe after a few years it will drop...kinda like plazma TV's were $10k a unit when they first came out...now they have hard time selling them for under $1k...
 
supercharged said:
I really like these nano coatings, the only issue I see - is the price...it costs way too much...Maybe after a few years it will drop...kinda like plazma TV's were $10k a unit when they first came out...now they have hard time selling them for under $1k...
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Like you're comparison, I believe these products will come down in price once they deeper penetrate the consumer market and then other manufactures get on board...:props:
 
supercharged said:
I really like these nano coatings, the only issue I see - is the price...it costs way too much...Maybe after a few years it will drop...kinda like plazma TV's were $10k a unit when they first came out...now they have hard time selling them for under $1k...
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BobbyG said:
Like you're comparison, I believe these products will come down in price once they deeper penetrate the consumer market and then other manufactures get on board...:props:
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Hope you guys are right. Ive got the OC app wherre I can do 2 average vehicles with one syringe. That is $30 per car, Others have reported doing a vehicle with 4 or 5 ml! Right now you can get a syringe of OC for $45. That is a steal for a permanent coating!
 
I've done 3 cars already and still have a little less than 10c's left.
 
loudog2 said:
I've done 3 cars already and still have a little less than 10c's left.
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Thats amazing! Corey and I have discussed and wonder if you want to get as much as you can level onto the p Thoughts?aint to have a thicker coating.
 
CEE DOG said:
Some of the many coatings:

Optimum - Opti-Coat----------- Ceramic-Silicon Carbide clear resin coating

CarPro - CQuartz----------- Ceramic Nano-tech

Gtechnique - C1----------- Crystal Lacquer

Element 119 - System X----------- Ceramic pre-cursor bonded with Si and O



Some of the many nano sprays:

CarPro Reload

Permanon

Gtechnique C2
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This is some good ass info right here!

As far as the disccusion goes, I've been way to lazy to compound/polish the SUV ATM but after I do it'll be the 1st time I'll use OC 2.0. I haven't used as many varied products as some of you guys on here but I'll report back on what I think and feel about OC vs something like Zaino or a natural nuba.
 
Old Tiger said:
Thats amazing! Corey and I have discussed and wonder if you want to get as much as you can level onto the paint to have a thicker coating. Thoughts?
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I think Chris or Anthony Orosco said you can recoat within the first hour or something, that seems to me the way to get it thicker rather than risking putting too much on in the beginning.
 
IOMCAMARO said:
You must wash them properly. If you induce scratches in them, then the coatings must be polished down or sometimes completely off. If this is the case, then the coating was a complete waste of money because you'll have to reapply it again. Where as with a regular sealant or wax, you don't have to worry about the high price of re-applying it.
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This is a short sighted way of looking at coatings. Polishing removes paint and the factory gives us very little. By installing a coating, you essentially only damage (swirl) and cut (polish/compound) the coating leaving the original film thickness intact. So what if you had to buy another $59 tube in 5-10 years or 5-10 polishings...breaking thru clear and getting a decent respray is thousands.


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Chris@Optimum said:
This is a short sighted way of looking at coatings. Polishing removes paint and the factory gives us very little. By installing a coating, you essentially only damage (swirl) and cut (polish/compound) the coating leaving the original film thickness intact. So what if you had to buy another $59 tube in 5-10 years or 5-10 polishings...breaking thru clear and getting a decent respray is thousands.


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I agree now. I didn't know that OC was that thick when polishing. I was told that a hand polish could take it off with ease. I was misinformed.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I think Chris or Anthony Orosco said you can recoat within the first hour or something, that seems to me the way to get it thicker rather than risking putting too much on in the beginning.
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You can add a second coat back to back on each panel or you can do a light polish after a week and add another, but IMO its overkill. Many of us suffer from more-is-better syndrome. Just apply it, use an AIO to clean it well from time to time and if you ever polish thru it, reapply.


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