Is this Optimum Poli-Seal???

bl3ujay07

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So i decided to use the poli-seal i got from a trade. Im not putting down the person i traded with. I tested it on two different cars and got the same results. Blurry haze with very little if any correction. Extremely hard to remove haze. Hard even with ipa. I know poli-seal has gotten A LOT of great reviews as an AIO.

I've shaken it for a long time. First attempt was on a black car on LC cyan hydrotech. Pics below are with LC white flat. Comments and suggestions? Im thinking about throwing it out at this point or putting it up for trade if anyone wants.

First picture: Megs GC + APC+ wash and clay
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Second picture: After "Poli-Seal"
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Cyan HT is NOT the appropriate pad...with the white you should be ok. The results you've gotten are not typical of my experience with the product, but you may be using way too much product--are you?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Cyan HT is NOT the appropriate pad...with the white you should be ok. The results you've gotten are not typical of my experience with the product, but you may be using way too much product--are you?
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Too much product? Primed the pad and then used it. Should i not prime the pad? Ill try it again with a different white pad and less product. Doing it right now. Multi tasking between ago and polishing.
 
Poli-Seal usually just kind of melts into the paint--so "hard-to-remove" residue really doen't sound right unless you are using a ton. Remember that with an AIO, they can gum up when you use a lot or the pad gets saturated.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Poli-Seal usually just kind of melts into the paint--so "hard-to-remove" residue really doen't sound right unless you are using a ton. Remember that with an AIO, they can gum up when you use a lot or the pad gets saturated.
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I've used d151 with no problem. Ill try using a lot less product to see. Will report back shortly.
 
well, after another try, less product (3 lines), no haze, but very little correction. I thought it was suppose to be more aggressive than d151 (which is more aggressive than m205). I guess i will have to tape up to car and do m205.
 
I haven't used it a lot, but it doesn't do much correction for me (I find it to be more of a cleaner, like most AIO's). I think the newer version is supposed to have more cut, but I have had mine for a few years.
 
Newb here, but I was under the impression Opti-seal was merely a paint sealant, not a corrective step???

Haven't tried it yet, but I had planned to do M105, then M205, and follow by applying (*maybe 1oz at most) of Opti-seal as a paint sealant... am I misunderstanding the product/application as discussed here?

Thanks
 
art72, Opti-Seal is a different product than Poli-Seal, which the original poster is using.
 
bl3ujay07 said:
well, after another try, less product (3 lines), no haze, but very little correction. I thought it was suppose to be more aggressive than d151 (which is more aggressive than m205). I guess i will have to tape up to car and do m205.
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Poli seal has less correction then m205 and far less the d151. It will get rid for some minor marring. If you are looking for real correction, RIDS and swirl marks then you need a more aggressive polish. If you have m205 start there with your white pad.
 
Finishing polishes are usually better for correction than AIO because AIO are like the jack of all trades... They do several things well, but nothing really great. You trade off correction ability, and protection for speed and quickness. They are usually ok for cars in already very good condition or on new cars to freshen them up twice a year. Optimum products wipe off very easily so I suspect overloading of pad with product.
 
I haven't tried the new Poli-Seal, but I do have several bottles of the old one. It works great as a cleaner wax for me. It has very minimal cut but you can mix it with Optimum Polish II for a little more bite.
 
As Setec said, sound like a litte too much product. Poli Seal should almost disappear using a white or gray pad. You still need to clean the pad often otherwise it will gummy up in the center.

Poli Seal is no where close to D151 in cutting.

bl3ujay07 said:
well, after another try, less product (3 lines), no haze, but very little correction. I thought it was suppose to be more aggressive than d151 (which is more aggressive than m205). I guess i will have to tape up to car and do m205.
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silverfox said:
Finishing polishes are usually better for correction than AIO because AIO are like the jack of all trades... They do several things well, but nothing really great. You trade off correction ability, and protection for speed and quickness. They are usually ok for cars in already very good condition or on new cars to freshen them up twice a year. Optimum products wipe off very easily so I suspect overloading of pad with product.
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I honestly thought it would cut as much if not more/better than d151. I guess it is more of a decent sealant with VERY light correction ability? I'm not for sure, but i think i have read somewhere about using d151, before wiping off residue, apply poly-seal over???

If not, im not sure if i have much use for it then. D151 has a good amount of cut, but it does not last too long. I topped off my brothers sequoia with nxt 2.0 after d151 (during feburary) and washed it about a week ago and im sure all the protection was gone. Can i use poly-seal as a LSP?
 
Poli-Seal, like any AIO isn't going be a stellar performer as an LSP. For best durability you'll need to top it like you did the 151. I've never used NXT 2.0 (only the original) but it's not known as an exceptionally long-lasting sealant (plus it likely removed whatever D151 left). I'm sure what you are remembering about applying something before wiping off the residue is applying a spray wax and wiping off both the AIO residue and the spray wax.

I'd top the Poli-Seal (or the D151) with something like 845. Or of course you could use Opti-Seal.
 
We'd be better able to tell you if you are using poli seal from a pic of the product rather than the vehicle. Lay down a bead on somthing and let's have a look.

As far as correction, it has about half of what Polish II has and you can mix in Polish II (30%) with Poli-Seal (70%) to add more cut. As is, is does some pad/pressure/duration dependant correction, but is mostly a cleaner/protection product. GPS has a little more bite and is in a spray for conveniece.
 
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