It is a little hard to remove hologram from M105

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So, when Paul Dalton showed his rotary work a little while back, under super bright lights, sun light, sun guns, electron microscopes yada yada yada, i guess he was lying to everyone. Feel free to contradict the worlds most expensive detailer:0
 
bryansbestwax said:
So, when Paul Dalton showed his rotary work a little while back, under super bright lights, sun light, sun guns, electron microscopes yada yada yada, i guess he was lying to everyone. Feel free to contradict the worlds most expensive detailer:0
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I'll just throw this out there. Dalton has switched to mainly using the Rupes polisher.
 
Kind of hard to type on my phone while I'm here at the airport so this will be short. I've never said a hologram-free finish can't be achieved using only a rotary buffer, what I've said is I don't believe it can be done to every paint system.

Love seeing everyone's emotions coming out though.

Keep in mind, the fact that your typing on a detailing discussion forum means you have more in common with the people on this forum than differences.

Also be mindful of the forum rules.

:)
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
For reference into the future...


Over the years I've see a lot of people claim they can buff out every car hologram-free no exceptions. I never believe them because I've done too much testing that proves otherwise.
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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Kind of hard to type on my phone while I'm here at the airport so this will be short. I've never said a hologram-free finish can't be achieved using only a rotary buffer, what I've said is I don't believe it can be done to every paint system.

Love seeing everyone's emotions coming out though.

Keep in mind, the fact that your typing on a detailing discussion forum means you have more in common with the people on this forum than differences.

Also be mindful of the forum rules.

:)
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No offense...but these two comments just seem contradictory to me.

The fact of the matter is that a hologram free finish is 100% possible with a rotary...you just need to know how to use it.

Also, I don't believe any forum rules have been broken here...then again...not surprising that just because a thread starts going a bit south and real facts start coming out...the comment "be mindful of the forum rules" gets brought up...what's up with that?
 
Joshs2013MSAltimaSL said:
No offense...but these two comments just seem contradictory to me.

The fact of the matter is that a hologram free finish is 100% possible with a rotary...you just need to know how to use it.

Also, I don't believe any forum rules have been broken here...then again...not surprising that just because a thread starts going a bit south and real facts start coming out...the comment "be mindful of the forum rules" gets brought up...what's up with that?
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I couldn't agree more. Bad information is given, then people call it out, and all of a sudden it's against the rules...

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Joshs2013MSAltimaSL said:
Also, I don't believe any forum rules have been broken here...then again...not surprising that just because a thread starts going a bit south and real facts start coming out...the comment "be mindful of the forum rules" gets brought up...what's up with that?
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What's up with that is we do not allow others to bash or be disrespectful on this forum. You can all disagree but if you cannot do it like adults you will be given a time out! :)
 
Meghan said:
What's up with that is we do not allow others to bash or be disrespectful on this forum. You can all disagree but if you cannot do it like adults you will be given a time out! :)
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So it's ok for one of AG's own to make sly or arrogant comments...but when a regular member does...then we have to get a "time out?" Whatever floats the AG boat I guess.
 
Meghan said:
What's up with that is we do not allow others to bash or be disrespectful on this forum. You can all disagree but if you cannot do it like adults you will be given a time out! :)
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Disrespect? Check out Mike's first response to me....wasn't must respect (or correct information for that matter) there...:dblthumb2:
 
statusdetailing said:
I'll just throw this out there. Dalton has switched to mainly using the Rupes polisher.
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Yes I know as I have had correspondence with him on this and why I jumped on buying them (21 and 15). That why I said a while back as you couldnt rip a rupes out of his cold dead hands. I have the rules as well. But the point is talking rotary finishing and its just plain wrong info.
 
bryansbestwax said:
Yes I know as I have had correspondence with him on this and why I jumped on buying them (21 and 15). That why I said a while back as you couldnt rip a rupes out of his cold dead hands. I have the rules as well. But the point is talking rotary finishing and its just plain wrong info.
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Perhaps the focus should be more on factual information being shared versus how it's shared.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Besides the fact that chemically stripping paint means you're introducing the risk for marring or even scratching the paint in the process, (to a finish you just buffed out), it's also a huge time killer and what I call working backwards.


Are you saying that not chemically stripping after polishing and before LSP is a good practice? Why would I want to LSP over polishing oils? Guess I've been working backwards all this time.
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Rsurfer said:
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Besides the fact that chemically stripping paint means you're introducing the risk for marring or even scratching the paint in the process, (to a finish you just buffed out), it's also a huge time killer and what I call working backwards.


Are you saying that not chemically stripping after polishing and before LSP is a good practice? Why would I want to LSP over polishing oils? Guess I've been working backwards all this time.
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I think what we've learned here today is that we've been doing it all wrong this entire time!
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Rsurfer said:
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Besides the fact that chemically stripping paint means you're introducing the risk for marring or even scratching the paint in the process, (to a finish you just buffed out), it's also a huge time killer and what I call working backwards.


Are you saying that not chemically stripping after polishing and before LSP is a good practice? Why would I want to LSP over polishing oils? Guess I've been working backwards all this time.
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to be fair , Mike P has stated many times that when using chemically synergistic products, that there is no need to chemically strip the entire car after polishing. I also think that chemically stripping after each panel is a waste. I will strip every few panels just to make sure that the products are finishing clearly.

I think the term "chemically stripping" means different things to different people. For me it means going at the panel with something very strong to be absolutely sure you are removing every trace of oil. Washing a car after polishing with something like citrus wash or a strong car wash is something I would rather do. I would never use something like an APC to wash the car after polishing as it can definitely dull the paint. I also consider Carpro eraser to be mild imo.
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