It might have been a bad idea to get a Brinkmann

Daily drivers are not going to stay swril free and scratch free. Just the road dirt they are subjected too will do your finish in. Best thing to do is seal it and keep it as clean as you can but manage your expectations (it's not a show car...or is it?).

Great advice for myself thanks

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It will raise the bar. Use it to inspect wheel wells and you want to work on those more as well.


Oh my goodness, I don't know if I want to do that, lol. I did buy some UTTP for the first time, but I haven't used it yet. When I swap my wheels out this winter, maybe I'll clean those wells and then coat them with it, just as an experiment to see how long it lasts through a harsh Nebraska winter.

While we're on the topic, does UTTP add any shine at all? Or does it just protect? Reason I ask is, I currently have been using Optimum Tire Shine. My tires still bead after quite some time, but they don't have the same finish they do after you first apply it. Maybe I should have added a second coat. I'm hoping UTTP keeps the look a bit longer, not just the beading and protection. Optimum TS does do a good job of keeping the wiper arms on my car looking new, in fact, it's hard to believe, and it's surprised me a bit.

Which Brinkmann would you use for a black car? Can't decide between dual xenon or dual LED.

I'm using the marine version with Xenon. All I can tell you is that it shows flaws ten times what the sun does.. on my car anyways. It's a very white light so anything, and I mean anything shows up like a sore thumb. It's a blessing and a curse so far. I'm anxious to use it after actually correcting paint because it will be much easier to see how well a product does in fact "finish".

One question of mine, for you guys who do this for a living that use the light... How do you go about things? I imagine if you do a lot of one steps in your business, where you're not creating perfect paint, it would be hard to judge how good is good enough with this light, because it is absolutely unforgiving in my experience so far. Perhaps it's easier on non black cars.

Yes... over time, no matter how careful you are there will be some light swirls and scratches that develop.

The fact of the matter is that the more you touch your car, the more of a chance there is of scratching it. All you can do is use proper technique to try to minimize that chance, but there is no perfect way to eliminate it all together.

Just give it a light polish every year or so with something like M205 to keep it looking its best.
I've heard this before but sometimes I need reassurance, lol. I've used SF4500 this summer on a couple panels and it was enough to bring the paint back to its maximum potential; it was capable of removing light swirls and water spots that accumulated since I hit it hard last year.

Daily drivers are not going to stay swril free and scratch free. Just the road dirt they are subjected too will do your finish in. Best thing to do is seal it and keep it as clean as you can but manage your expectations (it's not a show car...or is it?).

It is not, it's a daily driver. Black 350Z that's approaching its tenth anniversary. I'll try to heed your advice and manage my expectations.
 
Me and my friend spent 6hrs on my 645 yesterday trying to remove swirls that were shown under the brinkman light...got up this morning and it was swirl free under the sun

That thing is pure evil
 
Me and my friend spent 6hrs on my 645 yesterday trying to remove swirls that were shown under the brinkman light...got up this morning and it was swirl free under the sun

That thing is pure evil

lol. got any pics?
 
Lol Stu- you've seen my posts- you and me both buddy... Black + Brinkman is a death sentence. The more I read responses to my posts, the more I think the "managing expectations" thing is what we really need to do..either that, or make it a show car and never drive it again :) There is nothing like putting all the time in to polish + wax/sealant and then seeing those tiny scratches all over after a wash- even when you are SUPER careful taking the time to work clean, and otherwise following all the good advice around here. :doh:

The one thing I'm not sure about is- I do think the sun does reveal the same things the brinkman does, but it has to be direct, right on that spot. Since most cars have angles and bulges and stuff- I think it's just easier to get the brinkman pointed dead on at a spot and see what's there. I could be wrong about that though...
 
Me and my friend spent 6hrs on my 645 yesterday trying to remove swirls that were shown under the brinkman light...got up this morning and it was swirl free under the sun

That thing is pure evil

Now all you gotta do is never wash it- or be careful NOT to look at it under the sun/brinkman if you ever do! lol
 
Lol Stu- you've seen my posts- you and me both buddy... Black + Brinkman is a death sentence. The more I read responses to my posts, the more I think the "managing expectations" thing is what we really need to do..either that, or make it a show car and never drive it again :) There is nothing like putting all the time in to polish + wax/sealant and then seeing those tiny scratches all over after a wash- even when you are SUPER careful taking the time to work clean, and otherwise following all the good advice around here. :doh:

The one thing I'm not sure about is- I do think the sun does reveal the same things the brinkman does, but it has to be direct, right on that spot. Since most cars have angles and bulges and stuff- I think it's just easier to get the brinkman pointed dead on at a spot and see what's there. I could be wrong about that though...

I agree about your comments about the sun and Brinkmann. You can't move the sun like you can move the Brinkmann. The Brinkmann actually makes it look worse in my opinion, possibly due to the temperature of the light. It turns black paint light greyish. My paint is full of what I think is solvent pop which really sucks, because there's nothing you can do about it. It kind of looks like metallic flake at times. Either way, when the paint is polished it looks tremendous, even with the solvent pop.

I will be commenting on your thread tonight at some point--- stay tuned!
 
Maybe what they say is correct..... Ignorance is bliss. This sort of things never bothered me until I learned the difference between a squirrel and a swirl. :doh:
 
I'm not sure what 'solvent pop' is. Mine has something on the front fenders though that looks like a lot of tiny white specs, that you can see, but not nearly as well/many as with the brinkman. I think they are super tiny chips in the paint that have wax or some other product in them from the previous owner, not sure.

Oh well... I own an almost 10 year old car, not quite a daily driver, but might as well be. It's been kept in great condition and like you say it looks amazing when polished. So I think really I just need to adjust my expectations and know that it's not a show car and isn't going to be perfect. But at least doing what we can and caring about all this stuff will make our cars look better than everyone out there that doesn't :)

Maybe what they say is correct..... Ignorance is bliss. This sort of things never bothered me until I learned the difference between a squirrel and a swirl. :doh:

Exactly.. in my case it was "ignorance and owning only white cars". Why did I go straight from that to jet black?... lol
 
I just got a Brinkman dual head light along with the rechargeable light version on its way. This thing shows everything! Might have been a bad idea..:buffing:
 
I just got a Brinkman dual head light along with the rechargeable light version on its way. This thing shows everything! Might have been a bad idea..:buffing:

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Wait till you look at it with a microscope!

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I had planned on buying one. After reading this thread....no way. I don't detail for a living, and really don't make money on it anyway. My truck has some DISO going on, but I have yet to correct it.
 
I'm not sure what 'solvent pop' is. Mine has something on the front fenders though that looks like a lot of tiny white specs, that you can see, but not nearly as well/many as with the brinkman. I think they are super tiny chips in the paint that have wax or some other product in them from the previous owner, not sure.

Oh well... I own an almost 10 year old car, not quite a daily driver, but might as well be. It's been kept in great condition and like you say it looks amazing when polished. So I think really I just need to adjust my expectations and know that it's not a show car and isn't going to be perfect. But at least doing what we can and caring about all this stuff will make our cars look better than everyone out there that doesn't :)



Exactly.. in my case it was "ignorance and owning only white cars". Why did I go straight from that to jet black?... lol

Those are probably just rock chips. My front bumper is trashed, I don't even bother to polish it every time I polish my car. Full of rock chips from ten years of road trips, bug guts, etc. Someone hit me and marred the paint up on it a few months ago too. I wasn't even in the car so I don't know who did it. It's not super obvious though as it's not white, just a big scuff.
 
I had planned on buying one. After reading this thread....no way. I don't detail for a living, and really don't make money on it anyway. My truck has some DISO going on, but I have yet to correct it.

LOL, now that's funny.

All things considered I'm really glad I got mine. They're relatively cheap, I think you should get one!
 
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