Job at dealer is over

Yup. Cheap crap bought by people who pay more attention to the price that the quality, because they don't have to actually use the stuff.


And that sums up most new car dealership's detail program.


Just to note as I've shared this story over the years, a number of years ago my friend Tony, (who's a member of this forum now), took on a car dealerships used car detailing service and he asked me to help him out. I think he was getting $30.00 a car so something stupid like that. I helped him buff out ONE CAR and that was it for me.

There was drama involved I just let him know that doing high speed production slop & glop detailing wasn't for me. I know other guys that make money doing this business and more power to them I just knew after a single car I never wanted to do that kind of work again.


I'm thankful for the experience and that's how we all learn our boundaries in any vocation and that's by doing.


So be thankful for the experience and use it to help you avoid gigs like this into the future and for everyone reading this into the future try to learn or take something positive away from AeroCleanse's experience.

(Didn't see your name on the Roll Call thread)



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I could never do any kind of detailing work for other people unless their car got the same love my car gets.

To that end I could never do anything but multi step stuff and because of that I'm content doing this as a hobby.

I could never watch a car I worked on go out the door unless it had the works done to it because I would know (even if the owner didn't) that it was less than what I'd do on my own car.

Luckily I have a great job with great benefits and over 400 hours of comp time built up (vacation time) and I'm close to retirement.

I will still detail cars and frequent as many car shows as I can as long as I'm able as a hobbyist.
 
Its not a kickback thing, its the quality of the products. Most are bulk and low quality and are imported. Dealers try to keep their expenses and time involved in reconditioning down so first way is to use lower quality products. It would be like polishing a car with cleanser and a t-shirt.
 
It's amazing you can be so judgmental without full knowledge of the situation. How do you know he's not retired and doing it for a bit of fun on the side? It was a choice the OP obviously felt he had to make and I'm betting he didn't walk in to work one day and just decide to walk out of the door just because they had turtle wax sitting on the shelf. Sorry but I find your post uncalled for.

OP, I'm sure in the long run you'll save yourself a bit of stress being able to do things the way you would like. Hopefully that time comes quick for you.


Then clarification is needed to avoid these types of matter from happening.
 
Then clarification is needed to avoid these types of matter from happening.

Or maybe because this is a forum to help and support one another we shouldn't feel the urge to come down on someone because of a decision they made.

I've left companies for providing subpar products to end users all while masking it as if they were the best. Does that make me wrong, or ungrateful? No.

Sounds like the OP was doing what is best for them and what makes sense to them morally.

I'm proud to see someone not falling in line and going with the flow just for the sake of making money. Conforming even when you don't feel something is right is just plain wrong regardless of the reason.
 
BTW... AeroCleanse - good luck in your future endeavors, that dealer was lucky to have someone of your caliber working there.
 
Its not a kickback thing, its the quality of the products. Most are bulk and low quality and are imported. Dealers try to keep their expenses and time involved in reconditioning down so first way is to use lower quality products. It would be like polishing a car with cleanser and a t-shirt.

Oh its a kickback in one sense or another. Like I said, it may not be 'direct' but they are getting something out of it. By "they" it may not even be the sales department, it may be the owner... he might be getting weeks at a timeshare on the beach.... you never know.

Its about who actually gets something from the deal. Who knows, the company they have this 'exclusive contract' with may be some guys brother-in-law. :dunno:

I agree with Cardaddy. It is amazing the type of corruption and stupidity you can find in a car dealership. It sometimes rivals what I have seen at Fortune 500 companies.

If only this were *only* at car dealerships. ;) As you said, it rivals Fortune 500 companies!:rolleyes:

Every end supplier/vendor I've known operates on the same level at this. The brother of a friend some 35 years now works for one of the top two food service companies in the nation. Every couple of months he'll have a problem where the OTHER guy (and often one that works for the OTHER top two company) gave a free case of meat, or some other supply to one of his restaurants, along with a promise to provide 'this or that'. He then spends weeks on his knees (literally) trying to keep the account, and HE HAS TO GIVE THEM FREE STUFF to keep the account. (That BTW he already HAD to begin with!)

Bottom line; the one that works the best for their needs is usually the one they go with. The caveat "works the best" is something you need to think about. Because what 'works' doesn't mean if performs better, but it meets their needs in some other way. With the food service thing it often based on budget for most stuff, but for meat it'll be about taste and tenderness. For car dealership supplies they may provide a vast variety of products that fill needs top to bottom, front to back, including all their mechanical shop chemicals. That doesn't mean they have good, or even decent quality detailing supplies... just that they provide something that they can use without having to go elsewhere.

It may be of note to realize... The new car manager and used car manager have a LOT of swing when it comes to what makes the cars look like they want them to look. (Not that how THEY want them to look and how HE wants them to look are in the same ballpark.) This may help the OP if he can prove that his methods are within their budgetary constraints all the while providing superior results.

They MIGHT give an extra $3~$5 per unit (vehicle) but you have to take into account that is a HUGE hit to their bottom dollar. Doesn't sound like much, but when they are selling as few as 200 cars a month, that's $1000 a month, $13,000 a year and for a large volume shop those numbers can go up 2,3,4,5 hundred percent or more easily.
 
I'm confused here. You were an employee of the dealership, they switched product lines or decided to only exclusively use one line, so you quit your job?

I get that you wanted to do quality work.. but you were in the wrong place for that to begin with. Dealerships don't care about proper detailing technique and never will. It is about getting metal on the lot and selling it. Nothing less, nothing more.

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Good for you OP, I firmly believe that everyone deserves to enjoy every aspect of where and how they work. Keep on going until you find it.
 
I worked at a dealership for 5 years working on the used car inventory and I know how they operate. They want to buy the cheapest products and get the best results in the LEAST amount of time. I would not have walked out, but good for you for sticking to your guns.
 
I know where you are coming from. I too was a detailer at a dealer many years ago. I have since gone into management and know how the system works. Get it done to get it on the lot and photos on the web. You can't take that personally. I know you care about your work but these aren't show car and quite frankly most will never even see a hand wash let alone a coat of wax or detail the rest of their life. If you really care about your work have business card made up and put one in the car somewhere so that the next owner can find it and maybe give you a call to maintain the car properly. Good luck with finding a new job by the way.
 
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