Just want to say something about Menzerna Products--I'll be quick!!

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So I've been using Menzerna for about 2 or so months now and the stuff is absolutely amazing!! Blows meguiars out of the water- no comparison!

I have used SF 4000 which excellent for getting that last kick before sealant.

SI1500 cant be beat!! I will take an orange pad with SI and get amazing correction and finishes off phenomenal!!(Most cars)

I've used the 2500 and its great too just doesnt give tons of correction but gives a great deep shine.

Power gloss cuts like a champ and finishes off really nice! I did a boat recently and used a wool pad with PG and it cut the oxidation and finished nice enough the owner didn't want a second step! I am in the process of doing my van right now and used power gloss in certain sections and there is still lots of gloss on the paint even with yellow LC pad!

Here is just a pic of the hood after compounding with PG and a yellow pad

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I also started using Menzerna Power Gloss, 2500 and 4500 and I have had great results. There is plenty of correction and cutting with 2500. I use it with wool pad on my rotary or with cutting pad on rotary. I hear 1500 is great I will give that a try soon.

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I recently did a 07 red grand am and I used a white LC pad with 1500 and I couldn't believe how much gloss it had and the depth! I used CG 3x sealant
 
So you are using 1500 as a one step process? Are you using a rotary or D.A.?

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umana2482 said:
So you are using 1500 as a one step process? Are you using a rotary or D.A.?

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DA if I'm doing a one step. I doing my van now and I'm doing it all with a rotary. I'm using a yellow for PG, Orange with 1500 and black with 4000
 
Menzerna is great and all, but it's retarded to say it blows Meguiars out of the water...ever tried D300, M105, M101 etc? Menzerna is great on ceramic clears, but it can be a pain in the ass to use on other types of paints, and a total waste of time on some harder paints.
 
Actually, having worked with Meguiar's products since the 1970's when I first got into car detailing as a high school kid, then later working for Meguiar's as a Trainer, Writer and Instructor, they make very good products all around.

Since leaving Meguiar's and coming to Autogeek and using a plethora of different brands and I find Menzerna to have excellent products too, at least based upon my first-hand user experience from over 30 years now from working in this industry.


Most reputable brand names, like Meguiar's and Menzerna make exceptional products and our job is spending time learning their characteristics and then choosing the right product for the right job and then using the product to its maximum potential.


Becoming an expert with any product line only comes from experience with the products and that comes from time spent with them on multiple different paint systems and in multiple environments with a variety of tools and pads.


By the way, anytime I type "paint systems" that's my way of saying vehicles because vehicles come with very specific paint systems, whether it's the factory paint or a re-paint, it's still specific and different from the next car unless the next car is the exact same make, model and year. And even then, it could have a different paint system.



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Here's an example of what M101 Foam-Cut Compound can do with multiple tools, pads and yes, even people with a wide range of experience and skill.

M101 Foam Cut Compound - 1999 Trans Am Extreme Makeover at Autogeek

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The Makita BO6040 with a Surbuf MicroFinger Pad and the Flex 3401 with a Lake Country Ultra Microfiber Pad with Meguiar's M101 Foam-Cut Compound.

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John with the Cyclo with foam cutting pads...

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Jeff with the G110v2 DA Polisher

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Jeff with the 3" DA Polisher and a 3" Meguiar's Microfiber Cutting Disc

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DeWALT 849X with a Meguiar's very aggressive foam cutting pad...

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3M Orbital Air Sander and a Meguiar's 6" Microfiber Cutting Disk

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And here's an example of what Menzerna polishes can do....

In this example I'm using a 5.5" Lake Country Blue Foam Finishing Pad on a Flexible Backing Plate on a Flex PE14 Rotary Buffer.

You can use larger pads and backing plates on full size rotary buffers as long as the pads are soft foam finishing pads and you keep your RPM's at a low speed.

The paint should already be polished using a fine cut polish before switching to an "Ultra Fine Cut Polish" like the Menzerna SF 4500.

Also be sure to work surgically clean, that means before jeweling you want to make sure all previous compound and polish residues are removed off the surface and out of the cracks and crevices.


I did this in one take using my iPhone.




How to Jewel Paint using a Rotary Buffer
[video=youtube_share;V4PQfiXJLIc&hd=1"]How to Jewel Paint using a Rotary Buffer - YouTube[/video]​






Pick your poison and become an expert with it...


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Flannigan said:
Menzerna is great and all, but it's retarded to say it blows Meguiars out of the water...ever tried D300, M105, M101 etc? Menzerna is great on ceramic clears, but it can be a pain in the ass to use on other types of paints, and a total waste of time on some harder paints.
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Yes, I've used all of those except 101... I didn't think 101 was available in the us...

105, I don't like and 300 and didn't care for. We all have our opinions and I like Menzerna over meguiars...personal opinion.
 
Funny..I've become a Meguiars convert since 105/205. I have Menz bottles collecting dust.


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I have and use both. I can't say one is better than the other. Each job requires a different tool..... Sometimes Meg's is the tool and other times its Menz. Both are top notch.
 
ShineTimeDetail said:
I have used SF 4000

SI1500 cant be beat!!

I've used the 2500

Power gloss cuts like a champ and finishes off really nice!
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-Wait 'til you use some Menz: FG 400 and FG500!!!
(I particularly like their numbering-system designation---POS400; POS500)

-I've only "successfully" used, what's now numbered as SF 4500...
When I borrowed back my old rotary-sander from the Father-in-Law.
(Using it with the PC7424XP...didn't seem to: Cut it.)

Speaking of numbers...
-Anybody besides me wanting to take a bucketful, or two, out of that 55-gallon: Whoop-ass Barrel;
and, proceed to have an up-close and personal "event" with those:
Self-proclaimed tutelary-deities of the: OH! So Many...car-care products' marketing-machines?

:D

Bob
 
I am still a big fan of Menzerna and remember begging for us to carry it. Others exist, and years later I still reach for it most often. I do however want to try M101 ...
 
ive been doing a lot of megs UC with a orange then po85rd on black or blue ..... works great
 
Just proves the quote I've used ever since I started posting to forums...


"Find something you like and use it often"



Here's what that means,

If you like a product, that usually means you like the experience of using it which includes application, that is you like how the product applies. It also tends to mean you like how the product removes, that is you like how the product wipes-off. It can also mean you like how fast or slow it dries or the fact that it doesn't have to dry at all and you can wipe it off immediately.

And usually and most important, it means you like how it makes the paint on your car look and that's a huge part of the big picture of owning and enjoying your car, truck or s.u.v. or special interest car.

You can't really know which product you like best until you've used a variety of products so finding something you like and using it often means you have to do some research and at some point make some purchases and then go out into your garage and do some testing to gain real world knowledge and experience.

At some point you will find a product you like and if you use it often then your car's paint will always look good because it's only when you neglect your car's paint that it goes downhill.

Just the simple act of applying and working-in and over the paint a smooth, creamy product, (that is formulated to make paint look good), has a polishing-effect and if done on a regular basis will preserve and maintain a clear, glossy finish and isn't that the primary goal of those that consider them serious car enthusiasts?

How often you have to repeat this process to maintain your car's finish to a quality level you expect for your car's appearance depends upon how the car is used and where it's parked when not in use.

A daily driver that is parked outside most of the time, either at work or at home, will need to be maintained more regularly than a Garage Queen that is only driven on sunny days. So adjust your car maintenance schedule to fit your lifestyle and the way you use your car.



You can read the entire story here...

"Find something you like and use it often"



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How do you menzerna fans feel about po85rd? Has anyone who's used it felt it really added a little extra gloss to the paint that other products just haven't been able to deliver? It's expensive, and I'm curious if it makes any noticeable difference. Those who have used it, any input on it on light colored cars like silver? How about black cars?
 
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