Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

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Between coats can I use a car wash that has a wax in it or that will block my next layer of Sealant from laying on properly?

Also is both the All in one and the Sealant safe for windows including the windshield?

Thanks
 
Any product that leaves something behind will become an issue for the the layers of Klasse SG bonding together. That is one of the main reasons they always recommend using Klasse AIO prior to the initial coat of SG.

My advice would be to skip the car wash place all together until you get the second coat applied. Even if you don't get the wax option, I could see the soaps having "glossing" or sheeting agents in them which are no better than the wax. Use a good quality car soap that doesn't leave anything behind and wash it yourself by hand if possible. You'll need to hand wash it anyway since those automated places never get the car clean enough, and you don't want to trap dirt between the layers.

I can't tell you about the glass. I've used the Klasse twins for a long time, but never applied it to anything other than the paint, wheels, and headlight/taillight covers.
 
Well I don't own a garage so my car is outside. How do I clean off the dust and dirt in between coats? All purpose cleaner? I don't go to car washes to begin with was only saying what I have on hand.

Thanks for the assistance.
 
Just use a car wash soap that doesn't have wax in it and you should be fine. When you mentioned a car wash with wax I thought you were describing an automated place where you get the wax sprayed on at the end of the wash.

I used Meguiars Gold Class shampoo with success. I have to admit, that with a single layer of SG lasting six months, I rarely ever put down more than one layer.
 
What do you have for conventional and rinseless washes?

And both KAIO and SG are fine on glass, just make sure to apply sparingly and buff thoroughly or you will get difficult to remove film which will be streaky/annoying.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
What do you have for conventional and rinseless washes?

And both KAIO and SG are fine on glass, just make sure to apply sparingly and buff thoroughly or you will get difficult to remove film which will be streaky/annoying.
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I don't own anything except some crap with wax in it. Don't want to place another order to geek since I just placed one over the weekend. Meguiars Gold Class seems like they'd be a culprit for additives.

What do you recommend that I can get locally? Or recommend in general?

Thanks
 
Should I use a general purpose cleaner like simply green or...
 
macnolias said:
Should I use a general purpose cleaner like simply green or...
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I like Meg's Hyper Wash (not over the counter)
or Mothers Gold Car Shampoo (available over the counter)

Don't use an APC or Simple Green on the paint.
 
Somewhere here there is a post about mixing KHGS and Quick Wax for touch ups. I really like this solution. Basically you add a few oz of KHGS to a small spray bottle of something like Meguirs Ultimate Quick Wax. (something like 2oz of Klasse to 6-8 oz of quick wax).

After I wash, I spray the panels with this spray wax mix, and wipe off. Looks great, and so far has maintained the beading throughout winter. Once spring is here, I will reapply the KAIO/KHGS regimen again.
 
Desertnate said:
I've not seen any evidence of it, and as mentioned earlier, I had no issues using it when layering Klasse SG.
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I hope not.. Because I use D111 Shampoo Plus [which is similar as far as being said to have "conditioners"] and it would suck if it did contain additives that could negate or interfere with lsp. I've never had a reason to think so either.
 
I was also wondering about the conditioners in Gold Class and if they will mess with an LSPs characteristics.... I dug a little and found on MOL that it's slightly over PH neutral with a rating of 8.
 
SeanChav said:
I was also wondering about the conditioners in Gold Class and if they will mess with an LSPs characteristics.... I dug a little and found on MOL that it's slightly over PH neutral with a rating of 8.
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Personally, I'd be far less concerned with it being a tad off PH neutral and more interested in whether the "conditioners" could somehow affect things.. the way lets say Ultimate Wash & Wax could.. I've yet to use that soap to this day, that being the main reason.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Personally, I'd be far less concerned with it being a tad off PH neutral and more interested in whether the "conditioners" could somehow affect things.. the way lets say Ultimate Wash & Wax could.. I've yet to use that soap to this day, that being the main reason.
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yea the PH level doesn't bother me at all....I use pretty good LSPs....BUT I don't want their beading/sheeting characteristics to be compromised from some unknown surfactants left on the paint from the soap.

p.s. surfactants is my big boy word I got from Bob :xyxthumbs:
 
roguerobot said:
Somewhere here there is a post about mixing
KHGS and Quick Wax for touch ups.
I really like this solution.

Basically you add a few oz of KHGS to a small
spray bottle of something like Meguirs Ultimate
Quick Wax.
(something like 2oz of Klasse to 6-8 oz of quick wax).

After I wash, I spray the panels with this
spray wax mix, and wipe off.
Looks great, and so far has maintained the
beading throughout winter. Once spring is here,
I will reapply the KAIO/KHGS regimen again.
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-For a "Quick Detailer Spray":
1:6 ratio of KHGSG:UQD (approx. 1/2oz KSG:8oz. UQD)

-For a "Detail Spray Wax":
1:4 ratio of KHGSG:UQW (2oz KSG:8 oz. UQW)


Legend:
KHGSG=Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
UQD=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer
UQW=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax

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Bob
 
4u2nvinmtl said:
I like Meg's Hyper Wash (not over the counter)
or Mothers Gold Car Shampoo (available over the counter)

Don't use an APC or Simple Green on the paint.
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I called up autogeek yesterday with the same question and they said they same thing about avoiding a wash with wax in it. He didn't sound certain about what to use for wash but agreed to avoid any additives. He recommended something along the lines of Meguiar’s D101 All Purpose Cleaner. Simply green (EDIT: Just read a few places online to avoid using Green anywhere on the car) having similar uses and being all purpose... As long as whatever cleaner doesn't make the claim of adding a shine or streak free?

Meg's gold class has this for a description
Designed to both clean and condition paint in one step
Features an advanced formula that cleans without stripping wax protection
Foams away tough dirt, road grime and contaminants
Contains an ultra rich paint conditioner that leaves a radiant look on the paint

All of this conditioner talk makes me VERY suspicious of a residue being left on top of the the sealant. I'd imagine we'd want to strip everything besides the acrylic.

Any other input is greatly appreciated.
 
FUNX650 said:
-For a "Quick Detailer Spray":
1:6 ratio of KHGSG:UQD (approx. 1/2oz KSG:8oz. UQD)

-For a "Detail Spray Wax":
1:4 ratio of KHGSG:UQW (2oz KSG:8 oz. UQW)


Legend:
KHGSG=Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
UQD=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer
UQW=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax

*********************************************


Bob
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This is another one for those who don't like playing the role of mad chemist. It's the equivalent to a quick wax for Klasse SG users.

Sonus Acrylic Glanz Spray Sealant, Sonus paint sealant spray, spray paint sealant

This would be the quick detailer version.

Sonus Acrylic Spritz Quick Detail Spray, quick detailer, instant detailer, acrylic detail spray
 
I called up Meg's, they said to stick with Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash if I want to wash my car and have nothing left behind on the Acrylic.

Thanks all for the help but I think I've solved my own problem this time.
 
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