Know Anyone who sells cars?

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Or works in a dealer's financing department? How do they like the job? Are they happy doing it? What is the work/life balance? Is it a decent paying (above $40k IMO) field? Any cool perks that come with it?

I'm considering switching careers and I'd thought I would gather some information before I decide where to go look. I'm thinking of moving more into sales as I'm getting tired of living behind a desk.

Thanks for your comments...

John
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My friend is looking to buy a G35X, one that he was planning to go look at disappeared on a "weekend test drive". We were both like Woa you can do that? No, the manager just took the car for a week. Sounds like a perk to me. :D
 
I've worked at a few dealerships in a past life. SM and F&I at a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury dealership and F&I/Sales at a Pontiac Cadillac store. Up until the early 90s it was a great job for a single person. mid 60s pay with a lot of it cash back then. The guys I know still working now all say it's the worst job they can imagine. Long hours, pay is poor, all deals are short deals so the commissions are terrible (every customer has researched cost on the internet). Most places around here switched to a salary base ($25K or so) with no benefits and a very poor commission structure. Your best bet is to ask people working in the business in your area as every area will be different. Back when I did it everyone that sold a lot of cars worked 60-80 hours a week because if you weren't there...you couldn't sell a car. Maybe it's different now...dunno...I hope I never have to find out!

Best wishes
 
Now is not the time to go into the car business to begin with. Secondly, finance people are not just hired off the street, rather most get there by first selling the cars, and being promoted to the position; simply put, you have to prove yourself first on the field before you can move on up. With the way things have been in the auto industry the past couple years, this may have changed like with what AV8R was saying, but I still wouldn't expect to just jump right into it without first selling the cars for some time.

Now as far as people liking the job, I would say it is half half. Some people love the sales field with the fast past environment, and stress to always push something out, while others can not cope with it. Right now as I mentioned though is possibly the worst time in at least the past 30 years to get involved in the auto industry though as now people shop before they come in, so right off the bat you are given a disadvantage, and then to top it off, everyone is struggling so not as many people are buying cars to start. This leaves you with some slim pickings, and as mentioned before, you shouldn't expect to get more than $30k/year right now. However, when people are out buying, regardless of them shopping around, it isn't unheard of for the F&I people (who are paid on commissions) to make well beyond $40k and even in the upwards of 100k. The way most good sized dealers are structured as far as hours go can throw some people off. Some days, you work 10-12 hour shifts, while other days you work 3-4 hour shifts, and you ALWAYS work the weekend, regardless (meaning days off are Mon-Thurs). Once every while you may get a Sunday off though depending on the management. Again, depending on the dealership, this can mean 40 hour work weeks, while others (usually smaller dealers), that means 60+ hour work weeks.

So income potential is good, however it is by far not a career for everyone, and is not a good point in history for the industry.
 
Thanks for the comments everyone. I am just wanting to get out of my day job. I'm tired of doing what I went to school for. It isn't fun and I don't want to do keep doing it for another 20 years.

I LOVE automotive stuff, so I want to get a job dealing with cars in some way, but I need to make at least $40k to maintain my current standard of living.

If you can think of anything else... I'm all ears.
 
If you want to sell and detail cars get a dealer's license and buy 2 a month at the auction. Pick a specific type of car like...small Toyotas and then buy the nicest cars with the highest miles. Bring them home, detail them to the 9s and park them out front. I have a good friend who has done this for 20+ years out of his home. He makes a dump truck load of money every year and while he works pretty hard, he has a lot of spare time to spend with family and friends. He also has many nice toys that he's picked up on trades or at the sales. It's not impossible to make $2500 on a single used car if you know what to buy. 2 of those a month and you're at $60K a year. We live in NY, but buy cars from Maryland or Virginia. They can have 120,000 miles, but still look like a million bucks. People are always looking for a nice second car or a car for a son or daughter. Big market for someone who is careful and pays attention.
 
I dislike dealing with the business manager more than the salesman. They do all the signing with ceremony and torture you by holding you hostage in order to get you to buy some overpriced add on's (paint protection, warranties, etc) before letting you leave.
 
I dislike dealing with the business manager more than the salesman. They do all the signing with ceremony and torture you by holding you hostage in order to get you to buy some overpriced add on's (paint protection, warranties, etc) before letting you leave.

You're never a hostage if you know how to say no. :xyxthumbs:
 
I dislike dealing with the business manager more than the salesman. They do all the signing with ceremony and torture you by holding you hostage in order to get you to buy some overpriced add on's (paint protection, warranties, etc) before letting you leave.

That office is usually the highest grossing office in any dealership...by far.
 
You're never a hostage if you know how to say no. :xyxthumbs:

Oh, I know how to say no. It just takes time to say no to all their offers and sign the forms since they refuse to fill them out completely just in case they lure you into taking something since it would affect the totals.
 
Dad has been in the business for over 40 years and getting ready to retire permanently. Its still commission base, the hours are horendous for family people, often times living on draw, and no real benefits like the days of before. I remember when he was a General Manager for a local family owned Ford dealer , we got two demo's monthly for free and replaced them every 2500 miles.

They now flood the floor with sales people, they often have call zones, and they have goals to meet in units sold. Financing does make better $$ often by spreads but tapped more and more by the dealer meaning less profit. Also advent on internet means new car sales are harder to make $$ versus used units. (the cost is quickly found on new cars, often a basis is only found on used not actual price paid)

Spiffs are often long gone, no more extra $$ for moving a unit the same day. As with any career its more about putting money in the owners hand then in yours.
 
I worked in a dealership for about 12 years. I worked my way up from the "wash rack" which is what we call the detail shop in WI. Working in a dealership did nothing for my love of cars or detailing. It is a tough life. Lots of hours. Sometimes little pay and it is not exactly the most respected career (no offense to anyone currently working in a dealership). Turnover is super high in all departments. Really good career sales people are getting fewer and farther between these days which is why I think dealerships have a negative stigma. F&I guys seemed to make the most money though...but they also have to put in a ton of hours. I think one has to be careful when they try to make their hobby their career. It can backfire....just my opinion.
 
I've done auto sales and F&I in the past for a number of years. Back then there good was money to be made but the hours were long. Now there is little money to be made and the hours are horrendous! As mentioned the turnover is ridiculous and you are expected to come in & train on your day off. It is not even worth considering anymore as a career, maybe as a fill in between jobs......I'd rather dig a ditch. Look into another area such as service or parts, sales just ain't worth it anymore.
 
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