Lake Country pad failure

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I've been using Lake Country pads since 2012. I find them to be very durable and they work great. I've mainly been using the orange and green pads. I just bought a pack of 6 and one that I got was the most aggressive (yellow) pad. The 2008 VW Passat that I had this past weekend had extremely hard paint, so I gave it a try. It worked great with M105 and my Porter Cable set to 5.5. I rarely go over 5, but this paint needed some RPM.

I noticed it feeling a tad warm after an hour or so. Then, all of a sudden, the pad flew off the backing plate. I found that the black portion of the pad separated from the rest of the pad. My guess is that the glue warmed up and just let loose.

Has anyone else had this issue? Can I just glue it back, or is there any type of warranty? This is literally the first time I used it and for about 2 hours. Like mentioned above, I still have orange pads from 5+ years ago still going strong, so I was very surprised to see this one come apart.
 
You used the same pad for an hour straight? Is that what you do with the orange ones?
 
I’ve had all 6 of my LC flat yellow 5.5” pads delaminate on me and switched to BnS flat yellow 5.5” without a single pad failure.
 
What is the condition of the foam surface? I've had them overheat and shred chunks but never separate. If the surface is pristine and still intact I would say this may be a defective pad.
 
If they were being used for more than an hour I bet the pads got too hot and the glue just failed. That seems like overuse, especially at higher RPMs like you mentioned. Heat is the #1 enemy of pads.
 
The heat most certainly killed the pad. The trick is to rotate out your pads every couple of sections.

I have had one white LC Flat Pad separate on me and it was clearly a case of being too hot and the glue let go.
 
I've never had the need to run my Porter Cable that high before. I couldn't believe how loud it got after going past a setting of 5. I normally swap out the orange ones after a few panels, but I only have the one yellow and it was doing such a great job of the swirls, that I kept at it.

I already received a PM from a rep at Lake Country offering to replace it for free. Talk about going above and beyond.
 
I have had a couple of yellow ccs pads seperate recently. I planned on asking about them next time I order. I have about a dozen yellow, and use a new one for every panel, so heat wasn’t the issue with mine.
 
I’ve destroyed a few of the yellow LC Flat pads with my Deutto running them a top speed and over using them when I first started machine polishing.

Mostly sunken centers and one started to delaminate. Definitely user error on my part being inexperienced and pushing them to far, although it does seem to have only happened to the yellow ones.

My white and orange ones have held up well. I really like the orange ones, they are great for one steps with an AIO.
 
I had the same issue today. I ran out of microfiber cutting pads (my Rupes 21 kills microfiber pads in 2 to 3 sessions) so I decided to use LC Blue Cutting Pro pads. I use 2 pads per session. I do one pannel, clean the pad with my pad washer and switch to the other pad for the next pannel then repeat....

So 2 new pads, never used. One completelly delaminated and the velcro got ripped off the foam conpletelly and the other one got thrown off the DA while I was working, flew across the room and got damaged on what ever it hit.

The orange pads i ordered at the same time last year never had this problem... so it seems like the blue pads have some kind of issue.

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Calendyr said:
I had the same issue today. I ran out of microfiber cutting pads (my Rupes 21 kills microfiber pads in 2 to 3 sessions) so I decided to use LC Blue Cutting Pro pads. I use 2 pads per session. I do one pannel, clean the pad with my pad washer and switch to the other pad for the next pannel then repeat....

So 2 new pads, never used. One completelly delaminated and the velcro got ripped off the foam conpletelly and the other one got thrown off the DA while I was working, flew across the room and got damaged on what ever it hit.

The orange pads i ordered at the same time last year never had this problem... so it seems like the blue pads have some kind of issue.

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What solution is in your pad washer?

I imagine the different structure of the more abrasive foam makes it harder to stick things to it.
 
Just water. During the detail, I don't use cleaners in the water. Once the detail is done, I soak the pads using McKee's 37 pad rejuvenator for a few mins then then them in the pad washer only using water again.
 
Mine flew off the DA as well and scared me at first.
 
DMW said:
I've been using Lake Country pads since 2012. I find them to be very durable and they work great. I've mainly been using the orange and green pads. I just bought a pack of 6 and one that I got was the most aggressive (yellow) pad. The 2008 VW Passat that I had this past weekend had extremely hard paint, so I gave it a try. It worked great with M105 and my Porter Cable set to 5.5. I rarely go over 5, but this paint needed some RPM.

I noticed it feeling a tad warm after an hour or so. Then, all of a sudden, the pad flew off the backing plate. I found that the black portion of the pad separated from the rest of the pad. My guess is that the glue warmed up and just let loose.

Has anyone else had this issue? Can I just glue it back, or is there any type of warranty? This is literally the first time I used it and for about 2 hours. Like mentioned above, I still have orange pads from 5+ years ago still going strong, so I was very surprised to see this one come apart.
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It got a "tad" warm? You can't use 1 pad for 2 hours dude. That's pure user error right there. You should buy and read The complete guide to a showcar shine by Mike Phillips. I think it would be perfect for you
 
Calendyr said:
I had the same issue today. I ran out of microfiber cutting pads (my Rupes 21 kills microfiber pads in 2 to 3 sessions) so I decided to use LC Blue Cutting Pro pads. I use 2 pads per session. I do one pannel, clean the pad with my pad washer and switch to the other pad for the next pannel then repeat....

So 2 new pads, never used. One completelly delaminated and the velcro got ripped off the foam conpletelly and the other one got thrown off the DA while I was working, flew across the room and got damaged on what ever it hit.

The orange pads i ordered at the same time last year never had this problem... so it seems like the blue pads have some kind of issue.

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I don't know man you must be using the pads wet because they can't be dried that fast after being in the pad washer. A pad is supposed to be completely dry to use it. I know it stinks but I think you guys just need to use more pads. Forget about all the cutting corners it never works
 
I believe in using 1 pad per panel maximum and it's served me well. Yeah I have a lot of pads so it's a large investment but guess what. They will last forever. When you use them that way and clean them right after they stay looking and feeling brand new even after many many uses.

I swear by the pinnacle polishing pad cleaner
 
fightnews said:
I don't know man you must be using the pads wet because they can't be dried that fast after being in the pad washer. A pad is supposed to be completely dry to use it. I know it stinks but I think you guys just need to use more pads. Forget about all the cutting corners it never works
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Completely agree
 
I love my pad washer but even running them up to top speed doesn’t *completely* dry them.

I’ve heard a rotary does better to spin them dry, but haven’t tried it myself. Hell, I just spent $150 on a pad washer, I’m not spending another 50 for a cheapo hf rotary just to dry pads.


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fightnews said:
I don't know man you must be using the pads wet because they can't be dried that fast after being in the pad washer. A pad is supposed to be completely dry to use it. I know it stinks but I think you guys just need to use more pads. Forget about all the cutting corners it never works
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Been using the 2 pad method for 5 years, never had an issue. You may be right regarding this specific pad... Will try to add more pads on next job and see how it goes.

I just placed an order for LC Thin Pro Microfiber cutting pads, hopefully those are more resistant.
 
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