Leather Products (pH info and more)

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Thanks Gary and Carlos!

Id imagine someone at AG can help us out with this. If not, then I can send some samples to someone for testing.

FMINUS- I find 4* leather conditioner to be very similar to Pinnacle. I didnt like the CG conditioner. Left the leather too fake looking for me. If you like Pinn. then I dont think youll like CG either.
 
D&D Auto Detailing said:
How to test if leather is coated
Place a drop of water on the seat. If it gets soaked up and durns the leather dark then it IS NOT coated. If it just sits there and beads then it IS coated. (This info came from killr if I remember correctly.)
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I think i mentioned that in my thread i made a while ago "what i learned about leather". i got it from an artical which featured Dr. jenkins of Lexol.
 
Meguiar's Leather Cleaner & Conditioner D180 has a ph of 9 at 70degrees. Info from their msds
 
D&D Auto Detailing said:
Thanks Gary and Carlos!

Id imagine someone at AG can help us out with this. If not, then I can send some samples to someone for testing.

FMINUS- I find 4* leather conditioner to be very similar to Pinnacle. I didnt like the CG conditioner. Left the leather too fake looking for me. If you like Pinn. then I dont think youll like CG either.
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THanks
 
hmm. wondering if you can use a 1:1 diluted dp total interior cleaner on leather as well--that is if you follow up with a conditioner?
 
ricka said:
hmm. wondering if you can use a 1:1 diluted dp total interior cleaner on leather as well--that is if you follow up with a conditioner?
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Ive been using it straight on coated leather for awhile. No bad effects, so Id say its fine.

Thejoyofdriving said:
I wonder.. does PH change with temp?
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Thats what Im wondering too. If it does change, how so? Because the temps I use products at is usually 85- 95*

Thejoyofdriving said:
also 303 AC has a PH of 9
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What is AC and where did you get that info?
 
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No idea. We still have a lot of products to go over.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
I wonder.. does PH change with temp?
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From what I can tell yes but the change is small. I tried to figure out what the change would be at another temperature. After a few minutes of reading I think my brain started to hemorrhage. I just posted the information from the msds which mentioned the temperature.
 
again, does anyone have any info or knowledge on these new steam machines with extractors that are suppose to do wonders on leather setas carpet and total interior cleaning? go to:vaporclean.com..look at the desiderio model or auto detailing
 
eddluva22 said:
again, does anyone have any info or knowledge on these new steam machines with extractors that are suppose to do wonders on leather setas carpet and total interior cleaning? go to:vaporclean.com..look at the desiderio model or auto detailing
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PM TexasTB, he uses one.
 
Potential of Hydrogen (pH):
[:It is the symbol of the logarithm of the reciprocal of hydrogen ion concentration in gram atoms per litre, used to describe the acidity or alkalinity of a chemical solution. Negative logarithm of the concentration (mol/L) of the H3O+[H+] ion; the scale is commonly used over a range 0 to 14.Ascale of measurement of the relationship between hydrogen and hydroxyl ions, to determine if the material is neutral, basic (alkaline) or acidic (reactive), if there are more hydrogen than hydroxyl ions you have an acid the reverse will give you an alkali (another way to say basic]

A substance that is neither acidic nor basic is neutral; pure water has a neutral pH of 7.0Each whole pH value below 7 is ten times more acidic than the next higher value. For example, a pH of 4 is ten times more acidic than a pH of 5 and 100 times (10 times 10) more acidic than a pH of 6. The same holds true for pH values above 7, each of which is ten times more alkaline than the next lower whole value. For example, a pH of 10 is ten times more alkaline than a pH of 9.

Acidic and basic are two extremes that describe chemicals, just like hot and cold are two extremes that describe temperature. Mixing acids and bases can cancel out their extreme effects; much like mixing hot and cold water can even out the water temperature. Chemicals that are very basic or very acidic are called "reactive."
These chemicals can cause severe burns. Automobile battery acid is an acidic chemical that is reactive. Automobile batteries contain a stronger form of some of the same acid that is in acid rain. Household drain cleaners often contain lye, a very alkaline chemical that is reactive

Table IV Potential of Hydrogen


pH Range

​

Reactive​

0.0–1.0
Strong acid

Hydrochloric acid
1.0-2.9

Acidic
Citric acid (lemon)

3.0-4.9
Weak Acid

Vinegar (Acetic acid) Oxalic
5.0-6.5

Very weak acid
Acid rain​

6-7.3
Neutral​

Distilled water​


Basic​


7.3-9.0
Very weak alkali

Car wash concentrates
9.1-10.9

Weak alkali
Baking soda, Seawater
11.0-12.9

Alkaline
Bleach, Ammonia
13.0-14.0

Strong alkali
Sodium Hydroxide (Lye)​



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Thejoyofdriving said:
I wonder.. does PH change with temp?
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All chemical properties are stated as tested at a certain temp, this is ususally room temp 70 oF (Joy of Driving- 70 degrees F not 700F ;) )
 
TOGWT said:
Potential of Hydrogen (pH):
[:It is the symbol of the logarithm of the reciprocal of hydrogen ion concentration in gram atoms per litre, used to describe the acidity or alkalinity of a chemical solution. Negative logarithm of the concentration (mol/L) of the H3O+[H+] ion; the scale is commonly used over a range 0 to 14.Ascale of measurement of the relationship between hydrogen and hydroxyl ions, to determine if the material is neutral, basic (alkaline) or acidic (reactive), if there are more hydrogen than hydroxyl ions you have an acid the reverse will give you an alkali (another way to say basic]

A substance that is neither acidic nor basic is neutral; pure water has a neutral pH of 7.0Each whole pH value below 7 is ten times more acidic than the next higher value. For example, a pH of 4 is ten times more acidic than a pH of 5 and 100 times (10 times 10) more acidic than a pH of 6. The same holds true for pH values above 7, each of which is ten times more alkaline than the next lower whole value. For example, a pH of 10 is ten times more alkaline than a pH of 9.

Acidic and basic are two extremes that describe chemicals, just like hot and cold are two extremes that describe temperature. Mixing acids and bases can cancel out their extreme effects; much like mixing hot and cold water can even out the water temperature. Chemicals that are very basic or very acidic are called "reactive."
These chemicals can cause severe burns. Automobile battery acid is an acidic chemical that is reactive. Automobile batteries contain a stronger form of some of the same acid that is in acid rain. Household drain cleaners often contain lye, a very alkaline chemical that is reactive

Table IV Potential of Hydrogen


pH Range​

​


Reactive

0.0–1.0
Strong acid​

Hydrochloric acid
1.0-2.9​

Acidic
Citric acid (lemon)​

3.0-4.9
Weak Acid​

Vinegar (Acetic acid) Oxalic
5.0-6.5​

Very weak acid
Acid rain​

6-7.3
Neutral​

Distilled water​


Basic​


7.3-9.0
Very weak alkali​

Car wash concentrates
9.1-10.9​

Weak alkali
Baking soda, Seawater
11.0-12.9​

Alkaline
Bleach, Ammonia
13.0-14.0​

Strong alkali
Sodium Hydroxide (Lye)​




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Dude, where do you get all this info? Are you a professor or something?
 
I have a pH meter somewhere in my house from Hach. I should also have some calibration solution. I will see if I can find it.
 
TOGWT said:
Potential of Hydrogen (pH):
[:It is the symbol of the logarithm of the reciprocal of hydrogen ion concentration in gram atoms per litre, used to describe the acidity or alkalinity of a chemical solution. Negative logarithm of the concentration (mol/L) of the H3O+[H+] ion; the scale is commonly used over a range 0 to 14.Ascale of measurement of the relationship between hydrogen and hydroxyl ions, to determine if the material is neutral, basic (alkaline) or acidic (reactive), if there are more hydrogen than hydroxyl ions you have an acid the reverse will give you an alkali (another way to say basic]

A substance that is neither acidic nor basic is neutral; pure water has a neutral pH of 7.0Each whole pH value below 7 is ten times more acidic than the next higher value. For example, a pH of 4 is ten times more acidic than a pH of 5 and 100 times (10 times 10) more acidic than a pH of 6. The same holds true for pH values above 7, each of which is ten times more alkaline than the next lower whole value. For example, a pH of 10 is ten times more alkaline than a pH of 9.

Acidic and basic are two extremes that describe chemicals, just like hot and cold are two extremes that describe temperature. Mixing acids and bases can cancel out their extreme effects; much like mixing hot and cold water can even out the water temperature. Chemicals that are very basic or very acidic are called "reactive."
These chemicals can cause severe burns. Automobile battery acid is an acidic chemical that is reactive. Automobile batteries contain a stronger form of some of the same acid that is in acid rain. Household drain cleaners often contain lye, a very alkaline chemical that is reactive

Table IV Potential of Hydrogen


pH Range​

​


Reactive

0.0–1.0
Strong acid​

Hydrochloric acid
1.0-2.9​

Acidic
Citric acid (lemon)​

3.0-4.9
Weak Acid​

Vinegar (Acetic acid) Oxalic
5.0-6.5​

Very weak acid
Acid rain​

6-7.3
Neutral​

Distilled water​


Basic​


7.3-9.0
Very weak alkali​

Car wash concentrates
9.1-10.9​

Weak alkali
Baking soda, Seawater
11.0-12.9​

Alkaline
Bleach, Ammonia
13.0-14.0​

Strong alkali
Sodium Hydroxide (Lye)​




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Let me add, most natural waters pH runs 6-9.
 
gary26

Son of a Gun ! I may have to go back to school to decide what to put on my Leather Seats. I always loved a good challenge anyway. Keep the great info coming guys.
Gary26
 
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