Let Me Ask You A Question...... Business/Detailing.... Ranting

Nicholas@Autowerx said:
Perhaps the work ethic you are experiencing from your employee is a direct correlation to the compensation plan you have setup for them. If they are getting 25% of TOTAL revenue, regardless of the effort they are expending for said revenue, then they have realized that they can do minimal work and "milk the system" for the same paycheck as if they were busting their butt. Maybe a compensation plan that pays them only for their direct contributions (per hour, per job, etc.) would take care of the laziness/slacking-off problem.
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The problem is he can't effectively go backwards. This guy is not going to want to go from 25% to $25 an hour. (or $1500/ 60 hour work week)

OP instead (only my opinion) you should find someone who will work hourly for $18-20, and knows what they are doing, or is at least trainable. It sounds to me like you have enough work to take on 2 guys. If your current guy is working 5 solid 8 hour days that's all he's gonna want to do. If you can get him to take an hourly wage without any sour pusses you can then afford to get someone else part time with the same payroll expense.

I know it seems like you're giving away 1/4 of your business right now, but he doesn't seem like he wants to be a business man to me. It sounds more like he just wants a job.
 
I really wish I could help you out, but you are way too far from where I am.

I think you should simply sit down with that person and put your cards on the table. This to me feels like a lack of communication and you seems to have a different visions of things than that person does.

I would try to find a way to make it work by making him understand that he needs to put equal efforts if this is going to work. Otherwise negotiate a different payment plan that will accomodate his desires to work less hours and find a second helper to pick up the slack.

Tough situation, I might be wrong, but it feels to me you did not take the time to talk about what would be expected of him when you offered him the deal for 25%.

From past experience, I can tell you it is almost impossible to find people who will put the efforts you are willing to put in. People in general try to work as little as possible for as much money as they can. People willing to work as hard as they can are the exception. Finding someone like that is not easy so that is why I would never go to a % deal without a tie to amount of work done.
 
Hey all! Been to busy the last couple of days to really get on here and reply to your comments :/ I have been reading them on the go though! Thanks for all the advice and suggestions made..... I talked to the guy and worked it out which was super needed due to the crazy schedule :buffing: . If I decide to grow as large as we were before it will become an issue with pay, but as of right now I am fine as long as he puts in the work cause this company is already making much more than the previous which had tons have business, employees, and headaches. I was really freaking out that night cause there are so many deadlines to meet in such a small period of time. But my wife said it best, "Relax and do what you can do." I start getting extremely worried about the client's expectations and work myself silly trying to meet the expections that I feel they have for me. Then I realize putting a large project off for a day to complete another isn't nearly as big of a deal that I originally thought lol. So I must apologize for the crazy rant! I was just freaking out trying to keep everyone happy lol! You are all awesome for the support and suggestions for sure :dblthumb2:
 
That's actually a good slogan (from your other thread)

Bates Detailing - Quality over Quantity.
Maybe not "the one"
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However, the Master still makes me laugh :laughing: hahaha

Enjoy the weekend... :)

Art
 
WOW! I would help you too if I were closer. Dang why cant this be here in NY!! Or why cant I move to TN...oh yeah Daughter and Ex!!! Mainly Ex.
 
Ok so the same guy called out again today when we have 2 days left of what I am calling "hell week". I just pulled a 17 hour day because this guy called out :mad:. Im done with him, just fired him earlier in the night and Im done with employees period for now. Im going to book only what I can take care of and just bank the extra for growth in spring. I can't believe that this guy calls out twice in a week knowing that everything is on a deadline and that everything is cake after weds. Cant believe it - he just threw away a GREAT job that pays over double of most and with the most lenient "boss" there is! Cant believe it at all. Gonna stop believing in people man :nomore:
 
I don't think work ethic is with age I think it's all on how someone is raised or how self motivated someone is. I had my first job when I was 14. I was part time detailing boats where my dad worked at that age. If there weren't any boats to detail that day I was painting boat bottoms. I'm 26 now have a full time job detail part time I am a platoon sergeant in the national guard and I'm a full time dad. It's not the age it's the person. I wish you were closer because I would contribute whatever time I have to help you.
 
swanicyouth said:
Do you drug test your employes prior to hire?
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Are you wondering if you're eligible to apply?

:laughing: J/K.

He probably should though.

Watch, it turns out this guy has some kind of terminal illness and now OP will feel horrible for not believing excuses. At least thats how it would work out if it were my life.
 
Anthony,

I'm in Spring Hill. I have a M-F career and only detail on the weekends and am fairly busy, but I might know of someone who could help you if you need it.

Scott
 
I work somewhere north of 70 hours a week (up to 84) for half the year and I get paid a good bit less than what he was being compensated. Like everyone is saying, it's just the person. You'll find one that is willing to bust their butt eventually. Just be up front with them as far as what to expect hour-wise and what you expect out of them. If they can't deal with that then no need to hire. I hope it works out for you though!
 
VAS said:
Are you wondering if you're eligible to apply?
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No issues there. I've been "clean" for many years now. Just wondering, a lot of time erratic work behavior is linked to drug use. Sometimes they're great when they are there (they are up), then sometimes they no-show with the lamest excuses. A lot if times they have to leave early because of "not feeling well".
 
Bates Detailing said:
We have 5 Semis, a plane, and a bus tomorrow!!!!
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Hi Anthony, Long time no hear from


Are you not the one that use to spend 6-8 hours on an interior? If so, how in the world are you getting all the above work done in 1 day?
 
ill move to Tennessee if I can make $1500 a week on avg
 
Flash Gordon said:
Hi Anthony, Long time no hear from


Are you not the one that use to spend 6-8 hours on an interior? If so, how in the world are you getting all the above work done in 1 day?
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LOL - I will still put 8 hours into an interior..... but if you are talking about 5 stepping a King Air C-90, 2 stepping/Full Interior on Large yellow bus, 3 Stepping + full interior on 16 passenger corporate bus, and 3 stepping roof + cap of corporate bus...... how the hell would you get those done Flash? By working over 47 + hours in three days maybe? And not even close to finished with King Air. Hard work brings great monetary benifits as well as great stress levels :/
 
What is your hiring process?

I ask because I find that those that are anxious to hire someone end up showing that to the potential hires--the potential employees end up thinking they're doing you a favor. Conversely, if you are real discriminant in your hiring and make it clear that your job is the prize, the employee will truly value their position and give 110%. I've gone as far as having the first two (of three) interviews being a group session that ends up being more like a competition. In my smaller hiring sprees (like one or two positions) I'd still interview a minimum of five people in the first round and three in the second all the while being sure to either schedule a group session for the first one or make sure there was some scheduling overlap to ensure everybody knows securing a position with me is a competitive process.
 
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