Liquid Souveran vs Wolfgang DGPS 3.0

[bcwang]

Just wondering how different these 2 products are? How different are the looks , durability, and ease of use?

 

[Gary Sword]

Liquid Souveran looks better on light colors. DGPS looks better on darker colors. DGPS has better durability as long as it has time to cure. Both are very easy on and off.

 

[Rsurfer]

Just wondering how different these 2 products are? How different are the looks , durability, and ease of use?

You are comparing apples to oranges. LS is a liquid wax and Wolfgang 3.0 is a sealant. You could apply 3.0 first, let it cure for 12 hrs. and then apply LS. Both IMO are great products.

 

[bcwang]

Interesting, because both liquid souveran and DGPS 3.0 contain polycharger. LS would really be a carnauba synthetic blend then right?

 

[Rsurfer]

Interesting, because both liquid souveran and DGPS 3.0 contain polycharger. LS would really be a carnauba synthetic blend then right?

Correct, nuba vrs. sealant.

 

[loudog2]

All this poly crap is confusing. Both are great products.

 

[loudog2]

I guess it would be like fuzion, but liquid form.

 

[Rsurfer]

I guess it would be like fuzion, but liquid form.

I don't think you can compare LS to Fusion. One is a paste and LS is a liquid. Fuzion is not polychared, but relies on polymer crystals to reflect light. To keep the nuba in LS liquid it has more solvents than Fuzion. Although I have never done a side by side test for durability, I know Fusion will last longer just by past experience using both products.

 

[loudog2]

I don't think you can compare LS to Fusion. One is a paste and LS is a liquid. Fuzion is not polychared, but relies on polymer crystals to reflect light. To keep the nuba in LS liquid it has more solvents than Fuzion. Although I have never done a side by side test for durability, I know Fusion will last longer just by past experience using both products.

Lo ciento amigo(I'm sorry). I was basically saying fuzion is a carnuba w/polymers, but not liquid.

 

[Jimmie]

Interesting, because both liquid souveran and DGPS 3.0 contain polycharger. LS would really be a carnauba synthetic blend then right?

I think what the discription of LS says is it has polymers rather than "polycharged". Still a very good wax. My choice on my white Expy. I could be wrong. Been wrong a lot lately.

 

[Rsurfer]

I think what the discription of LS says is it has polymers rather than "polycharged". Still a very good wax. My choice on my white Expy. I could be wrong. Been wrong a lot lately.

Jimmie, you might be right. I have a bottle of LS with polycharger and that was suppose to be the new formula. AG website on LS does not mention polycharger. They must have changed the formula again. Maybe Matt, Meghan, or Killr can confirm this.

 

[loudog2]

Mine says polycharger also. That's why I said it was confusing. If it had polymers, it would by fuzion in liquid form(polymers and carnuba). I think it is a typo on the page. Or maybe they changed it w/o telling us, but I think they would've promoted the change.

 

[termigator]

I have both original LS and the newer polycharged LS. The original LS has polymers in it. It was supposed to be a replacement for Pinnacle Paste Glaze. It just didn't work out that way. That's why they have Signature Series II.

I haven't used the new polycharged version yet, but I've used original LS and I'm somewhat disappointed with it. IMO, it looked just like Gold Class and it also acted like it after washing. I'm not saying it's bad or anything. I just think it looks just like Gold Class but it's four times as expensive.

 

[Gary Sword]

I think what the discription of LS says is it has polymers rather than "polycharged". Still a very good wax. My choice on my white Expy. I could be wrong. Been wrong a lot lately.

I have to agree Jimmie. LS looks very good on white.

 

[bcwang]

Yeah, I definitely remember when they advertised Liquid Souveran with Polycharger. It was supposed to be more durable than before. However, now the AG website doesn't mention it anymore, though some third party sellers still have the older wording that mentions polycharger.

I wonder if the formula changed yet again or if they just don't want to advertise that they use polycharger anymore.

 

[termigator]

Yeah, I definitely remember when they advertised Liquid Souveran with Polycharger. It was supposed to be more durable than before. However, now the AG website doesn't mention it anymore, though some third party sellers still have the older wording that mentions polycharger.

I wonder if the formula changed yet again or if they just don't want to advertise that they use polycharger anymore.

When I bought LS BOGO from AG a couple of weeks ago, the bottles that I got did have little "with Polycharger" stickers on them.

 

[ScottB]

All this poly crap is confusing. Both are great products.

having used Poly in initial form and in multiple products with additive. The only difference I can personally note is more gloss. It doesnt seem to enhance durability as once thought.

 

[loudog2]

having used Poly in initial form and in multiple products with additive. The only difference I can personally note is more gloss. It doesnt seem to enhance durability as once thought.

So is the liquid souveran different? We all noticed it doesn't say polycharger anymore, on page or bottle. Instead it say they use polymers.

 

[ScottB]

So is the liquid souveran different? We all noticed it doesn't say polycharger anymore, on page or bottle. Instead it say they use polymers.

The original LS is/was a different formula versus all other Pinnacle Waxes. The last version I know of was polycharged and had a sticker on top which noted it. I did not hear of any additional changes.

 

[Rsurfer]

So is the liquid souveran different? We all noticed it doesn't say polycharger anymore, on page or bottle. Instead it say they use polymers.

Maybe they ran out of stickers!!