List your coating that failed!

DanaDetailingPros said:
Heard allot of happy people with the Gyon
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I've just done a two-year run with the Pure EVO and will be re-doing it in a month or so. The wife's car has MOHS EVO I applied this fall. Both look fantastic and have performed really well. Between the two, I'd give a nod MOHS as having the better water behavior, but it's splitting hairs.
 
Desertnate said:
I've just done a two-year run with the Pure EVO and will be re-doing it in a month or so. The wife's car has MOHS EVO I applied this fall. Both look fantastic and have performed really well. Between the two, I'd give a nod MOHS as having the better water behavior, but it's splitting hairs.
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Thanks for that. I've been using Pure, bought 50ml more (I have 3 cars to coat this year), but I wonder if I should get MOHS and put that on the car that is lightest in color or maye the one that's outside the most.

I love the look of Pure evo, but it seems like people don't think MOHS gives much up in looks.
 
I have Pure on a car with bright blue pearl paint and it looks spectacular. Mohs is on a white pearl SUV and despite white being a really boring paint color, Mohs give it quite a bit of gloss and it looks pretty good.
 
I’m wondering what coatings look best on black, red,blue,and assorted darker colors.
 
Bill D said:
I’m wondering what coatings look best on black, red,blue,and assorted darker colors.
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This is Mohs on black paint. The first time I installed Mohs was on a black Palisade. It was so slick and glossy that it convinced me to polish off my old coating and put Mohs on my car.

 
That’s impressive! Especially since it moved you to remove the other coating. I’ll keep that one in mind!
 
Here is Pure EVO on blue and Mohs EVO on white. I found Pure to have a little more depth to it while Mohs was a little more reflective and glassy.
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Depth is what I’m after so it looks like I’d be interested in Pure. Beautiful cars!
 
Bill D said:
I’m wondering what coatings look best on black, red,blue,and assorted darker colors.
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Heres one example of mohs evo on pure black.

My vote goes to mohs. It is so refective.

Dont get me wrong..pure is nice but im mohs all day everyday.

Sorry pics are not that clear cuz im not a vip memeber lol
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They asked me to send pictures, which I did the same day they responded and they never replied back! Weird...
 
DDP - What are you expecting from DIY. Reimbursement of product ?

In the realm of auto cosmetics, like tint or PPF film - one having a lifetime, and the latter having a 10 year warranty. In both instances, my tint or PPF guys would probably address the situation + material+labor than dealing with the manuf, submitting a claim, etc, etc. It just ain't worth it for them from a Customer Experience or just having to submit a claim, make customer wait 2-3 months etc...

Now that I type this.....this is how one of my previous tire mounting/alignment places lost me as a customer. Brand new tire set, one had a slow pinhole leak .....they did a song and dance on me. Sent the tire back to factory to get X-Rayed. etc. Went on for 2 months or the like to get compensated back......Never been back to that tire shop.


I don't read much into warrantys except for stuff like HVAC or my deeziner appliances in which repair costs are high
There's plenty of good coatings on the market, some even like Half a Benji.
Not worth the time IMO
 
chefwong said:
There's plenty of good coatings on the market, some even like Half a Benji.
Not worth the time IMO
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Agree. The fact the product failed far earlier than it should is a bummer, but it's not worth the time or energy to keep up this dance. Time to move on and don't give them a second thought.

I had a bottle of Griots polish go bad once, so I contacted them and got a speedy response/resolution. However, I was fully prepared to not invest any effort beyond my first e-mail and would have simply bought someone else's product the next time I needed it.
 
chefwong said:
DDP - What are you expecting from DIY. Reimbursement of product ?

In the realm of auto cosmetics, like tint or PPF film - one having a lifetime, and the latter having a 10 year warranty. In both instances, my tint or PPF guys would probably address the situation + material+labor than dealing with the manuf, submitting a claim, etc, etc. It just ain't worth it for them from a Customer Experience or just having to submit a claim, make customer wait 2-3 months etc...

Now that I type this.....this is how one of my previous tire mounting/alignment places lost me as a customer. Brand new tire set, one had a slow pinhole leak .....they did a song and dance on me. Sent the tire back to factory to get X-Rayed. etc. Went on for 2 months or the like to get compensated back......Never been back to that tire shop.


I don't read much into warrantys except for stuff like HVAC or my deeziner appliances in which repair costs are high
There's plenty of good coatings on the market, some even like Half a Benji.
Not worth the time IMO
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Not at all.
Just expecting it to last over 6 months.And the MFR. To reply with an explanation.
 
chefwong said:
In the realm of auto cosmetics, like tint or PPF film - one having a lifetime, and the latter having a 10 year warranty. In both instances, my tint or PPF guys would probably address the situation + material+labor than dealing with the manuf, submitting a claim, etc, etc. It just ain't worth it for them from a Customer Experience or just having to submit a claim, make customer wait 2-3 months etc...


Not worth the time IMO
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Agreed. When I took my certification class it was in a detail supply shop, one of the biggest, if not the biggest in Georgia. The owner pretty much has the heads of the major detailing companies on speed dial. In both of the sessions I attended he told the students that coating warranties are useless. The manufacturer will first blame the installer, then say that the customer isn't doing proper maintenance and if both of those prove to be wrong at the very best the manufacturer will send a new bottle out to have the vehicle recoated. He's never in over a decade of selling coatings seen a company reimburse a customer or do more than send out a replacement bottle.
 
User error is always the reason for ‘failed’ coatings.

It’s like painting a car and it fish eyes, and then you blame the paint.


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Eric7810 said:
User error is always the reason for ‘failed’ coatings.

It’s like painting a car and it fish eyes, and then you blame the paint.


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So EVERYONE installed Cerakote coating wrong?

Always?

Bold statement…. Most of the time….at best…..maybe….




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I think he was taking it from the vendor's perspective. They will always blame it on the user and absolve themselves of any responsibility for their product regardless of an actual problem with the product.

I think this is a common trend in any business. Unless you have irrefutable evidence of the business' fault, the consumer is out of luck.
 
Desertnate said:
I think he was taking it from the vendor's perspective. They will always blame it on the user and absolve themselves of any responsibility for their product regardless of an actual problem with the product.

I think this is a common trend in any business. Unless you have irrefutable evidence of the business' fault, the consumer is out of luck.
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Nah his analogy was comparing to paint fish eyes is the paints fault. Which it’s not. That is usually from a contaminated surface or environment which is painters fault…


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