Look What I Saw A New Winged Daytona

Winged-Plymouth SuperBirds/Road Runners were the
Winged-Dodge Daytonas/Chargers' beloved double-first Cousins.

I still think my 1970 Plymouth GTX w/440 Magnum
was purtier than those inbred ones. :D


Bob

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Except that the new Chargers look nothing like the old ones. The new ones are super ugly buck tooth looking boxes. ugh. The new Challengers look much more like the old Chargers.

How can you say a 1970's Challenger looked like a Charger? Maybe a Cuda, but a Charger, not even close.
 
How can you say a 1970's Challenger looked like a Charger? Maybe a Cuda, but a Charger, not even close.

Challenger/Cuda looked NOTHING like a Charger back then, Chargers were bigger cars and styled differently, crazy!



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How can you say a 1970's Challenger looked like a Charger? Maybe a Cuda, but a Charger, not even close.
The 70's Challenger looked similar to a charger, like the Charger, Challenger, early Pontiac GTOs, 1967-1969 Camaros looked. Long, failry wide, and with large flat sections. To a lesser degree, the Mercury Cougars looked like them. It's that general pony muscle car look.
I was saying that very few cars have that same overall look today. The new Charger is too fat looking with too square and big a grill opening. The new Challenger looks more like all of those early cars I mentioned more than the new Charger does.

The new Camaro obviously looks like the old one, which, again, looks more like the old muscle cars than the new Charger does.

To me, there is nothing nostalgic or vintage looking about the new Charger, period.
The new Challenger and Camaros do look nostalgic and share more of a long wide look, like the early Charger.

The new Charger looks short in length and fat, and rounded where it should be squared. Not nostalgic. Not long and wide and flat looking. Not long enough looking, not wide enough looking, and much too rounded.
It has NOTHING in common with the old one in terms of looks.
The front end of the new charger looks like a full sized truck front end, shaved lower.

There is a horizontal grill bar that shouldn't be there, and the vertical piece looks totally wrong.
The grille opening also extended the entire width of the front end, with the headlights in the grille opening. As far as THAT styling element is concerned, the new Challenger looks more like the old Charger. It is a CRITICAL styling element as far as the overall personality of the car.

The taillights on the old charger were thin horizontal shaped. The new Charger's are continuous and a big block shape.
The Challenger looks more like it with its more thin looking horizontal shape.
The front and back of the old Charger was very similar. The front and back of the new Charger look nothing alike, and while the new Challenger's front and rear end don't look too much alike, they look a lot more alike than the new Charger's.

The front and back ends of the old and new Challengers and old Charger are wide and very short from top to bottom. The new Charger's is narrow from side to side and fat or tall vertically.
That is another way in which the new Challenger looks more like the old Charger.

The overall roof shapes of the new Challenger, old Challenger, AND old Charger are extremely similar, as is the shape of the side glass and body where it meets the side glass. The new Charger is totally different from ALL of those cars.
Granted, the old Charger has a much smaller rear window that is recessed into the roof than the Challenger's, but the New Challenger's roof and even rear window STILL is more similar to the old charger's than the new Charger's is.

The roof on the new Charger has a curve that flows from front to back. The New CHALLENGER's roof profile is flat on top, with an angle at the back, like the old Charger's, and the old Challenger's.
The C pillar on the new Challenger is much more similar to the C pillar on the old Charger. The new Charger's C pillar is totally different.

The new Challenger's roof looks more like the old Charger's roof than the new Charger's roof in practically every way.


Look at the shape of the lip of the wheel openings on the new and old Challengers, and the old Charger. They all have a thin lip that slightly flares outwards. The new Charger has a wheel opening with a large flat section that is totally vertical, like the wheel opening lip on a modern car.
Again, the new Challenger looks more like the old Charger.

If you took the time to study the design elements of all of these cars, you would see I'm right.
 
I guess its like the old addage of when an accident happens at an intersection and those from each corner see something different.

To quote Homer Simpson..."your ideas are intriguing to me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter".

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I am not going to get involved in this debate but that car is UGLY!! The wheels it all doesn't mesh well together. I get it yea the old one's were great cars, but that is one ugly replica.
 
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't see any similarities other than the fact they are both muscle cars and have 4 wheels.


 
I am not going to get involved in this debate but that car is UGLY!! The wheels it all doesn't mesh well together. I get it yea the old one's were great cars, but that is one ugly replica.


Same here.....I'd be embarrassed to be seen in that car.
 
Sorry for the delay here is a pic of the wheels.



Yeah, those wheels don't fit the theme, period! Here's what should've been done, add the nose to give it a unique look, lose the wing and stripe and some 20" Magnum 500-styled wheels and call it a day....IMHO! I've seen people add a simulated bumper to the new Challengers even, "kinda" cool in a way.

You guys ever seen the company that converts a new Camaro into a mix of 69' T/A and SD....on 2nd thought, DON'T!

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Yeah, those wheels don't fit the theme, period! Here's what should've been done, add the nose to give it a unique look, lose the wing and stripe and some 20" Magnum 500-styled wheels and call it a day....IMHO! I've seen people add a simulated bumper to the new Challengers even, "kinda" cool in a way.

You guys ever seen the company that converts a new Camaro into a mix of 69' T/A and SD....on 2nd thought, DON'T!

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Well, the body kit was made for people who love the look of the Superbird, so the wing is as essential as the nose. There are also hood and fender pieces. I think the fender pieces clutter it up. Not everyone loves the Superbird. Some people do. I do.

The Superbird is the epitome of the classic American muscle car, with it's enhanced aerodynamics (which function, and are not just for looks-key point) and it's 440 cu in.Chrysler Hemi engine, be it street Hemi or race Hemi.

The high rear wing allows the trunk to open and allows you to see out the rear virtually unobstructed. All lower rear wings severely impair rearward visibility. Think about that. If you try to put a rear wing on a car that generates 500 pounds of downforce on a trunk lid, there are going to be problems. It will crush the sheet metal.

That is why the real ones have the wings bolted to the frame instead. From an engineering perspective, there isn't another way to bolt a wing to a car on the rear with an opening trunk that works as well as the high wing design did, if you want to be able to see back there, if the wing is on top of the car, and not underneath.
 
Your right Bob, Chargers only but its just a tribute car I guess. Kinda like when people put the 01 on orange Challengers, that's also kinda weird.

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The modern Challenger is as close to the old school Mopar as you can get off the

line today. So we're seeing some of the "superbird", "cuda " and "Dukes of Hazzard"

tribute Challengers. I agree with most here, I'm not a fan.
 
Winged-Plymouth SuperBirds/Road Runners were the
Winged-Dodge Daytonas/Chargers' beloved double-first Cousins.

I still think my 1970 Plymouth GTX w/440 Magnum
was purtier than those inbred ones. :D


Bob

I agree, This is a 383 version of the 70 body style. I am a little biased tho :xyxthumbs:

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Dave
 
That B5 Blue pearl looks great on Challengers. It's different, not just another black German luxury sport sedan. Other than the wheels, it's not that obnoxious (it made me smile instead of chuckle like I would at RICE'd Civics).
 
That B5 Blue pearl looks great on Challengers. It's different, not just another black German luxury sport sedan. Other than the wheels, it's not that obnoxious (it made me smile instead of chuckle like I would at RICE'd Civics).

I sense some dislike for Beemers here and as far as the comments about a rice'd out Civic goes its right inline with those Honda's w/ a picnic table on the decklid, a fart can and a 1.6L stock engine IMO but what's worse is the amount of money spent and speaking of this is the car in question even a HEMI?

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