Looking for a good coating, similar to PBL diamond coating

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Since I'm not well versed on what's out there, I was wondering if there is something similar to the PBL diamond coating? From what I've read it's very easy to use, you can top it with a wax and lasts decently long as is. It's going on my dark F250 truck ( I have a recent detail thread here somewhere if you want to see it )
 
Any reason you don't want to just use the Diamond coating?


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ekennett said:
Any reason you don't want to just use the Diamond coating?


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What he said! It's about as easy as it gets. I think DP is a little more finicky when it comes to use.
 
I've used DPPC and currently have been using DGNCC (Dura Gloss Nanoglass Ceramic Coating) with great sucess. DG's coating kit is under $50.00 and you get more than the coating, best buy out there offered by a GREAT company, can't miss, trust me!

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How's the gloss with the DG coating? I have to look it up more... You can use whatever you want to in terms of topping right? I'd wait a week on the next wash to top.
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
How's the gloss with the DG coating? I have to look it up more... You can use whatever you want to in terms of topping right? I'd wait a week on the next wash to top.
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Topping? Nix that notion:
No need to top a Coating!!

Bob
 
Yeah but doesnt topping a wax give it more depth etc versus just using a sealant solo? If it doesnt, then I think I'll just stick to my wax. I like how the truck looks waxed. I did try opti-seal and I didnt like the way the truck looked afterwards. It looked differently then when I would wax it, and to be expected.

Do ALL sealants end up looking the same?
 
I have cquk and decided to top with Pinnacle Synergy. You might want to take a look at Synergy if you like to wax like myself. It's a bit pricey but I love it. Check out some of my threads with my Gto to see the cquk/synergy.
 
Just02896 said:
Unless said coating is CQ and will be subject to rain within the 24hr curing window. :-)
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Then the topper is the LSP...
And...IMHO...Is being used as an excuse for the shortcomings of either the Coating, or the:
'non-committal status' of the "Coating-applier".

MrOneEyedBoh said:
Yeah but doesnt topping a wax give it more depth etc versus just using a sealant solo? If it doesnt, then I think I'll just stick to my wax. I like how the truck looks waxed. I did try opti-seal and I didnt like the way the truck looked afterwards. It looked differently then when I would wax it, and to be expected.

Do ALL sealants end up looking the same?
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I thought you were originally talking about Coatings. :confused:


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Then the topper is the LSP...
And...IMHO...Is being used as an excuse for the shortcomings of either the Coating, or the:
'non-committal status' of the "Coating-applier".


I thought you were originally talking about Coatings. :confused:


Bob
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I've had clients that simply must drive their vehicles in the rain before the 24hr cure time and I protect these vehicles from water spots with reload. Some clients just don't have a garage or a second vehicle to drive while their coating is setting up. Others allow me to keep their vehicle overnight during forecasted rain. It's hit or miss I guess but the reload definitely does its job and if applied at the right time I believe it bonds permanently with the coating seeing as it is comprised of pretty much the same ingredients as the coating itself. Reload is just a means of temporary protection against having water spots etching into a soft or uncured coating and as such will wear away exposing a fully cured coating. Not an excuse nor lack of commitment, just good measure! :-)
 
For that price I'd love to know how that DG coating protects vs. something like a typical sealant (Menzerna PL, 845, etc). Some claim years, etc...but I see everyone using Cquartz or Opti-Coat 2.0 the most here in the states.

I didn't know you could pick up a coating for that cheap. I DD my car almost 50 miles a day so I'd love to have that extra protection year round...especially on my soft Honda black paint!
 
ousooner2 said:
For that price I'd love to know how that DG coating protects vs. something like a typical sealant (Menzerna PL, 845, etc). Some claim years, etc...but I see everyone using Cquartz or Opti-Coat 2.0 the most here in the states.

I didn't know you could pick up a coating for that cheap. I DD my car almost 50 miles a day so I'd love to have that extra protection year round...especially on my soft Honda black paint!
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CQUK is my go to for coatings lately. Very easy to apply, excellent gloss, and durable long lasting protection.
 
Just02896 said:
I've had clients that simply must drive their vehicles in the rain before the 24hr cure time and I protect these vehicles from water spots with reload. Some clients just don't have a garage or a second vehicle to drive while their coating is setting up. Others allow me to keep their vehicle overnight during forecasted rain. It's hit or miss I guess but the reload definitely does its job and if applied at the right time I believe it bonds permanently with the coating seeing as it is comprised of pretty much the same ingredients as the coating itself. Reload is just a means of temporary protection against having water spots etching into a soft or uncured coating and as such will wear away exposing a fully cured coating. Not an excuse nor lack of commitment, just good measure! :-)
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-So...Reload is pretty much the same ingredients as the Coating and, (evidently) doesn't "spot from water"?
Then why in the name of sense use that Coatng in the first place?

-Reload permanently bonds with the Coating?
How, then, does it wear away sooner than the Coating, and still leave the Coating behind?

-Coatings' Commitments:
Customers must make time for their vehicles to be at the ready,
or: it's not the right time for their vehicles' to be Coated: ("Rock Steady"!)


-To not inform Customers of all the
Coating's-facts/eccentricities, would be doing them a grievous disservice, IMHO.


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
-So...Reload is pretty much the same ingredients as the Coating and, (evidently) doesn't "spot from water"?
Then why in the name of sense use that Coatng in the first place?

-Reload permanently bonds with the Coating?
How, then, does it wear away sooner than the Coating, and still leave the Coating behind?

-Coatings' Commitments:
Customers must make time for their vehicles to be at the ready,
or: it's not the right time for their vehicles' to be Coated: ("Rock Steady"!)


-To not inform Customers of all the
Coating's-facts/eccentricities, would be doing them a grievous disservice, IMHO.


Bob
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Plain and simple. Carpro recommends reload over CQ coatings to protect against water spots. I did not invent the coating and am happy to follow their recommendations. As far as whether or not reload will bond with the curing coating, It's my assumption based on the fact that they both contain silica. Of the 9 vehicles that I've CQUK'd so far this year 3 of them went out in the rain as early as 4 hours after the application and I firmly believe that a quick coat of reload warded off any water spot formation. 2 of them came back last week for a maintenance wash and coat of reload and still look fabulous with no water spots. As far as the reload permanently bonding with the coating, I'm assuming this due to the fact that they contain many of the same ingredients. I've never turned a customer away just because they cannot lay there vehicle up for a full 24 hours and there is no reason to do so as far as I'm concerned.

Just out of curiousity, have you had the pleasure of using OC or CQ coatings?
 
Can you top coatings? Do they make a measurable difference in looks?

Also can the wax even last on coatings. As in doesn't it have anything to bond or hold on to like it would on clear coat


Also whats the difference BT CQ UK and the standard CQ? The UK is a bit cheaper..
 
If you're a Miyagi disciple, a coating is waste of money and time. Why take the trouble to apply a coating just to take away its properties and appearance by covering over it with wax.

Wax attracts dust and anything passing by, and makes those huge water beads that turn into huge piles of dirt making washing almost a daily routine, and soap sales soar. A coating is just the opposite....a dust and water repellent making washing a breeze and not required nearly as often.

In my wax days years ago I hated the thought of rain on my paint...now I welcome it with the coating.
 
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