Do you have evidence, like clinical trials / comparisons / tests to support your claims? Personally I read the tests, reviews, comparisons from folks here who are experienced and actually test things. Their results are contrarian to yours, and they support their findings with evidence.
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Do you have evidence, like clinical trials / comparisons / tests to support your claims? Personally I read the tests, reviews, comparisons from folks here who are experienced and actually test things. Their results are contrarian to yours, and they support their findings with evidence.
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Attn mods, please shut down the forum as Dave has figured out everything!
I completely disagree. In addition to the wealth of knowledge, I chose and buy from Autogeek because they carry the biggest selection of detailing supplies that just can't be bought locally. I can get everything I need in one order, from one place. I love that AG is a one stop (detailing) shop!
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Clinical Trials???? hahahaha This is not a new drug being tested for approval by the FDA. Stop trying to use words that have no relevance, you are just making yourself look foolish.
Comparisons Yup, I have been detailing for over 30+ years. I also have evidence as many of my private customers come back time after time. Results and satisfied returning customers are proof not reviews. No one product works for all cars or you would all be using Nufinish from Wal-Mart. :laughing:
Reviews are just people telling you how the product they used returned a result for them on a car with the process they used. A real detailer does a test area on a car using different products and compares what will work best for the paint condition and hardness or softness of the paint. Also including the amount of correction needed to achieve the best results.
Reviews do not tell you that.
Just because you or anyone else on the internet buys something made for Pros to use does not mean you will get Pro results. This is because most people do not have the tools, skills or knowledge to use the product to return those results. I see this all the time and correct these issues all the time.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Test things your self and that's how you know what is BS and what really works. This is my opinion and if you don't like the truth, keep buying stuff and thinking you are a pro.
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I admit, I didn't really touch on that when I made my recommendation for 845. I'll go a bit further in hopes it will help the OP.
My vehicles wearing 845 are very easy to wash with a power washer or a run through a touchless car wash in the winter. The salt doesn't seem to cling much at all. I've also noticed that when the car sits though a heavy rain not long after getting covered in salt (yes, that actually happens around here), the rain actually does a pretty good job as well.
Will the car be perfect? Not at all. There will be a little bit of grime left which is only visible when very close to the car and the only way to get it totally clean is a hand wash of some sort. I don't have a heated garage, so when the temps are hanging around freezing or below I'm quite happy with "good enough" until the weather warms up.
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I would shy away from any coating, but that is just me. Not that coatings are bad but they take the fun out of detailing. They are meant to be put on once and left alone for a couple years. For those of us that like to rub on our car and consider detailing to be a form of therapy as well as a hobby that long a time between experiments with new things is simply too long. If you don't see this as a hobby or fun and consider taking care of your car on a regular basis a chore (or you simply can't find the time), then a good coating is indeed the way to go.
It does not have to be work, especially since the op requested input on sealants which are becoming easier and easier to use - and they last six to twelve months. No matter where you live you can detail twice a year and protect your car through the winter and then again through the summer, no matter how harsh the conditions.
I've been using Polish Angel products lately but for the mainstream and casual user almost any name brand will work well. I like Duragloss 111/601 a lot and you can top it periodically with another great Duragloss product - AquaWax - which is also a very good drying aid after your rinse. I also like Sonax Polymer Net Shield with the occasional "booster" of Sonax Brilliant Shine. I don't like how Sonax grabs the towel during application but the results are outstanding. There are many others but on my Mercedes "Diamond White" paint Sonax and Duragloss products truly excel.
It does not have to be work, especially since the op requested input on sealants which are becoming easier and easier to use - and they last six to twelve months. No matter where you live you can detail twice a year and protect your car through the winter and then again through the summer, no matter how harsh the conditions.
I've been using Polish Angel products lately but for the mainstream and casual user almost any name brand will work well. I like Duragloss 111/601 a lot and you can top it periodically with another great Duragloss product - AquaWax - which is also a very good drying aid after your rinse. I also like Sonax Polymer Net Shield with the occasional "booster" of Sonax Brilliant Shine. I don't like how Sonax grabs the towel during application but the results are outstanding. There are many others but on my Mercedes "Diamond White" paint Sonax and Duragloss products truly excel.
This is my opinion and if you don't like the truth, keep buying stuff and thinking you are a pro.[/QUOTE]
Where did I claim to be a pro? I said the opposite of that, if you took the time to read what I wrote.If you read my comment, I said I learn from the trials, reviews, and comparisons, recommendations of people on this board who are more experienced than I am. No need to put words in my mouth that I never uttered.
Where did I claim to be a pro? I said the opposite of that, if you took the time to read what I wrote.If you read my comment, I said I learn from the trials, reviews, and comparisons, recommendations of people on this board who are more experienced than I am. No need to put words in my mouth that I never uttered.
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Heck, I'd prefer to read reviews from folks who are tripping over extension cords in the garage, launching pads off of backing plates, finding a high spot laden front fender the day after coating and spraying down a wheel with WG Perfekt Paint Prep instead of Uber Wheel Cleaner because they grabbed the wrong bottle. That way I know just what my experience is likely gonna be like.
Not that I've done any of those things...purely hypothetical.
Not that I've done any of those things...purely hypothetical.
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Got any sources to back that up? What makes "true" products like Kamikaze better? I'd like hard, objective evidence please, not personal anecdotes. Your logic in all of your posts is flawed because you say to ignore marketing, things told to us by random reviewers and things on the internet... but you only offer your personal opinion which is exactly the same thing
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I am not going to do your research for you. Do some investigation yourself if you can and you will learn the truth.
Also by research I don't mean just surf AG forums. Expand your search and you will find the true products that real shops use around the world.
FYI the USA is NOT the tops in the Detailing world of products. Europe and Japan are, but you would not know that because you only live in AG world.
Like I said do your own research because I am not going to spoon feed it to you. I was trying to help everyone but you all know so much more. :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Assume all you want about where and how I get my information; I asked for one simple thing and you can't even provide it - instead you turn to arrogant blanket statements. In the future when you go off on these tangents, it helps to
A)have a point
B)have proof ready because when you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you, not the people you are trying to educate on the subject.
Thanks.
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What do I have to prove to you? You are the one that's clueless and needs help and validation from others not me.
You don't think for yourself, you have others that provide how you think.
I am not making claims, it the truth.
Do I have to take you to the Liberty Bell or show you the Bill of Rights or the Constitution to show you its real? No, your point or whatever you were trying to say is just stupid.
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You are beyond reasoning or having a civilized discussion. Have a good one.
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Can't go wrong with mckees paint coating, it's quick,easy and the maintenance washes are effortless
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Synergy black label sealant shines better then most waxes and last 12month MY GO TO
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What about keeping a spray bottle or small pump spray with you on the days you're going to hit the power washer? Preload the sprayer with some car wash soap. Have a mitt and power rinse, spray on the soap, mitt it and then rinse. Throw mitt in plastic bag and wash and dry when you get home.
Thoughts?
I too am entertaining the sealant vs coating vs prep vs cost vs benefits equation... it's tough. I don't know anyone locally who even uses this level of detailing stuff for their cars. So I've never seen any of these things work in person.
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Thoughts?
I too am entertaining the sealant vs coating vs prep vs cost vs benefits equation... it's tough. I don't know anyone locally who even uses this level of detailing stuff for their cars. So I've never seen any of these things work in person.
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i have actually do that for the week we go to the beach. in NC my chrome rims just get so blotchy. when i got hoem the one year it took me hours to get the blotches off. i found out it was cause i was rinsing and just has others have said not using soap or drying. so anymore i do exactly like you said for the rims and then dry them and i don't have any issues anymore. i just don't want to get into it on a daily basis when i have to get home or am inbetween stops if it clears up. i know lazy but show me someone else who does that who doesn't post here. lol having the garage heated and cleared out properly to wash inside in the winter has deff helps. my wife thinks i'm nuts but you really have to wash every week to keep cleaning time to a min if need be in the winter. i have noticed that this winter. way easier, but i'm still always looking to make it quicker and easier. my kids are getting older. they have more going on. i have more going on. yes this is a hobby for me and it soooo is therapy. mindless manual labor compared to when i'm at work. i don't mean mindless but you know what i mean.
yesterday i bought a few things. i didn't buy a new sealant or coating yet. i'm not there yet.
i did buy some mckee stuff for my tires. their rejuvinator and their tire coating vs using the usual gel i use. want to see if it last longer and looks better. i also bought a new cleaner for my rims for when i'm going to polish and seal them. i'm trying the pinnicle diamond coating after i polish them to see if i get anymore length inbetween polishes from what i use now which is just regular rim paste.
but no new sealant for the spring yet. i'm still on the fence. i will say from you guys jogging my mind a bit the collinite brand stuff i might try. i just dont' think i have the patience to make sure all my presteps are perfect coating application.
yesterday i bought a few things. i didn't buy a new sealant or coating yet. i'm not there yet.
i did buy some mckee stuff for my tires. their rejuvinator and their tire coating vs using the usual gel i use. want to see if it last longer and looks better. i also bought a new cleaner for my rims for when i'm going to polish and seal them. i'm trying the pinnicle diamond coating after i polish them to see if i get anymore length inbetween polishes from what i use now which is just regular rim paste.
but no new sealant for the spring yet. i'm still on the fence. i will say from you guys jogging my mind a bit the collinite brand stuff i might try. i just dont' think i have the patience to make sure all my presteps are perfect coating application.
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rops:And we appreciate your business, we try to do our best with education.
Dave if you are going to come on to our forum and bash our products please do some fact checking first. First off the products you like that we do not sell, well we do. Please go our on site and look up the brands you listed.
Second item Dave, we have rules on this forum, we do not tolerate people coming on here and bashing products OR most importantly my forum members, if you look at post counts these guys have been here a long time and contribute to this forum in a positive way. So with that being said please excuse that I will be giving you a time out.
Respecting others, it's what we do here.