Looking into paste waxes any suggestions

swanicyouth said:
As soon as you start talking about waxes and how they "look different", some people make the leap to waxes "fix defects". If you say you used wax Y and you thought it looked better than wax Z, they want to assume you mean "wax Y is all you need to put on any paint to make it look perfect".

In other words, if you comment on the subtle difference between waxes, they assume (incorrectly) that you mean you can just negate all the prep work and use wax Y. Or, because if you buff out a car and it looks great, no wax could possibly improve or alter the look of their hard work.

I think most of us agree its all the prep work and polishing that makes the paint look great. But for some people it has to end there, because they can't wrap their head around anything altering the look of the paint beyond correcting the paint.

You can easily see correction, but differences in waxes are subtle, but they do exist. Obviously your looking at paint through a film of some measurable thickness. That film is not 100% clear (just look in your wax tin - can you see the bottom?).
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I agree with what you say, you have brought up some good points to ponder, and while I have suggested one product, Collinite, this brand may not be optimal in certain applications.

The same could probably be said about any LSP product, whether Carnauba, or Synthetic, and the costs of such products would not have any bearing as to its final results.

An example perhaps, as a professional detailer, let's take our own forum expert Mike Phillips, whom which has probably forgotten more than I know. We see Mike's jaw dropping work on a regular basis here, and his virtual unlimited selection of products used in each instance.

Now, due to Mike's experience, he pretty much knows his way around the block quite well, but can even Mike predict what Chemical Guys, or Poor Boys, or EXO, or Midnight Sun, or the rest will do to a paint system "before" he uses it?

Will that particular "Y" product have been the best choice, and that "X" product would've given even better results? Of course there's personal tastes also.

We all often hear about how some certain brand Sealants look "Plasticky", and that while some folks really like this hard sterile glassy look, others do not?

As you've mentioned, and reminded, prep prior to any LSP will be paramount to getting the best final results.
 
Since you're looking for paste waxes here's a few I enjoy.

DP Max Wax
Lusso Oro
BFMS
CG 50/50
 
Pinnacle Signature Series II is a pleasure to use! It also looks beautiful and last a while (I think). I enjoy experimenting with LSP's but I often gravitate to Sig Series II. My advice is to start a collection. :)
 
swanicyouth said:
Nothing could be farther from the truth. That's like saying all sodas (or beer) have no major differences because they're all made from the same water. Carnauba is just one ingredient, and its only roughly 1/5 (~20%) of the contents by weight.
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I see your point. I was Under the impression finishing wax was 100% Carnauba wax. As opposed to cleaner wax that have tons of fillers and cleaning agents in them. But if you are correct and that finishing wax is only 20% carnauba wax mixed with other things, there can be a significant difference.
 
I can attest to some of their statements, your typically waxes are supporting ~20-30% carnauba the high carnauba content waxes are sporting I'd dare to say 40% at best, there's so much that goes into waxes you'd be astonished, some info in my thread if you're interested
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...brew-carnauba-wax-protowax-picture-heavy.html

I believe you feel/felt the way you do/did because of the marketing, there's so much false marketing in the detailing world especially in regards to paste waxes and their ingredients even more so mainly carnauba %'s
 
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