Loss of clarity with coating?

[fightnews]

IIRC you said something about not coating the trunk? If that's the case, IPA the trunk and lay some tape down, and provide us a legit 50/50 so we can actually see exactly what you're talking about... Because so far all we've got is that lousy pic from the absolute worst distance and angle to go on.

And don't go getting your feelings hurt because it truly is a lousy photo.

Honestly bro the photo may not be enough to convince you but i dont want to do all that. You know the trunk on the kia I'd have to take the plate off and it's just a waste of time.

I'm buffing it all out, trunk included starting tonight and going to use carnubaflocken creme. You will just have to take my word for it if all those pics aren't enough.

The best I can do is take a picture tonight from any angle you want after I wash it and before I buff. Then I'll take a pic after detailing it this weekend from the same angle.

I spend every weekend taking care of this car so I'm super frustrated with this crappy coating. Enough that I'm not going to work tomorrow so I can start to fix it. Not to mention the 150 bucks worth of crappy product

 

[Eldorado2k]

Honestly bro the photo may not be enough to convince you but i dont want to do all that. You know the trunk on the kia I'd have to take the plate off and it's just a waste of time.

I'm buffing it all out, trunk included starting tonight and going to use carnubaflocken creme. You will just have to take my word for it if all those pics aren't enough.

The best I can do is take a picture tonight from any angle you want after I wash it and before I buff. Then I'll take a pic after detailing it this weekend from the same angle.

I spend every weekend taking care of this car so I'm super frustrated with this crappy coating. Enough that I'm not going to work tomorrow so I can start to fix it. Not to mention the 150 bucks worth of crappy product

It's all good, I'm just glad it didn't turn into a major disagreement between me and you because I didn't mean to agitate you. Maybe I should've chosen better words..

But not all is lost, you could still have a chance of documenting the difference in the paint by laying a tape line down the middle of your hood and showing a 50/50 after you've polished off the coating and returned it to bare polished paint, which according to you should look alot better than the "rubbery" state it's in right now?

You can do 50/50 shots but in reverse steps.

 

[fightnews]

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Look how clear the paint is normally

 

[fightnews]

It's all good, I'm just glad it didn't turn into a major disagreement between me and you because I didn't mean to agitate you. Maybe I should've chosen better words..

But not all is lost, you could still have a chance of documenting the difference in the paint by laying a tape line down the middle of your hood and showing a 50/50 after you've polished off the coating and returned it to bare polished paint, which according to you should look alot better than the "rubbery" state it's in right now?

You can do 50/50 shots but in reverse steps.

Ok I'll do that but the only thing is the lighting in the garage isn't as good as the sun but I'll try to take it outside or hold up a flashlight

 

[fightnews]

It's all good, I'm just glad it didn't turn into a major disagreement between me and you because I didn't mean to agitate you. Maybe I should've chosen better words..

But not all is lost, you could still have a chance of documenting the difference in the paint by laying a tape line down the middle of your hood and showing a 50/50 after you've polished off the coating and returned it to bare polished paint, which according to you should look alot better than the "rubbery" state it's in right now?

You can do 50/50 shots but in reverse steps.

I will definitely do the test spot on half the door that way I can make sure I get through the coating

 

[yak0924]

Ive seen This type Of result before. Ended Up the guy used a heavier cut Polish/Compound With his light polishing/finishing Pad. Must Have confused the bottles. It made his Black paint Look hazy/rubbery/dull. Not Saying That's What you Did Just Saying i've seen This before.




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[fightnews]

Ive seen This type Of result before. Ended Up the guy used a heavier cut Polish/Compound With his light polishing/finishing Pad. Must Have confused the bottles. It made his Black paint Look hazy/rubbery/dull. Not Saying That's What you Did Just Saying i've seen This before.




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Was it the same coating. I think that' surface cleansing polish dusting up so much didn't help


Do you guys think menzerna 2500 on a finishing pad would be too strong for this job? I've only compounded once and this would be my third time using a medium polish. All the other times I used ultra fine mostly or regular finishing polish and pads.

I'm just wondering if you guys think menzerna 2500 would be to aggressive for this job given the condition of the paint?

 

[Rsurfer]

Was it the same coating. I think that' surface cleansing polish dusting up so much didn't help


Do you guys think menzerna 2500 on a finishing pad would be too strong for this job? I've only compounded once and this would be my third time using a medium polish. All the other times I used ultra fine mostly or regular finishing polish and pads.

I'm just wondering if you guys think menzerna 2500 would be to aggressive for this job given the condition of the paint?

You don't need a medium polish, just use a finishing polish 3500/3800.

 

[fightnews]

You don't need a medium polish, just use a finishing polish 3500/3800.

Yeah ur probably right, I'm starting now I'll just use the 3500

Sometimes it seems like a medium polish followed by an ultrafine makes it look better

 

[Rsurfer]

Yeah ur probably right, I'm starting now I'll just use the 3500

Sometimes it seems like a medium polish followed by an ultrafine makes it look better

That maybe, but your paint is in pristine condition..all your trying to do is remove the coating.

 

[DaveT435]

I don't know if anyone has asked this yet. What did you wash it with?? If the problem started after the wash, if it was a wash and wax product or a wash with gloss agents I would say it would be whatever the wash left behind causing the problem. When you waxed the trunk it cleaned it up.

 

[fightnews]

I don't know if anyone has asked this yet. What did you wash it with?? If the problem started after the wash, if it was a wash and wax product or a wash with gloss agents I would say it would be whatever the wash left behind causing the problem. When you waxed the trunk it cleaned it up.

No I didn't wash it for a week after putting the coating on. I noticed the issue the 2nd day after coating. I said the first earlier but it was actually the 2nd Only reason I didn't notice it the first day is because it was cloudy and rainy and it was parked inside all day

 

[fightnews]

That maybe, but your paint is in pristine condition..all your trying to do is remove the coating.

Its actually not that great up close. Lots of orange peel and rock chips. Drives me crazy

 

[DaveT435]

No I didn't wash it for a week after putting the coating on. I noticed the issue the 2nd day. Only reason I didn't notice it the first day is because it was cloudy and rainy and it was parked inside all day

Sorry, I read that wrong. The only time I've noticed anything like this was after polishing with Menzerna, but it was before the wipe down and you didn't have to be too far away to see it.

 

[Audios S6]

It's difficult to tell how much clarity was lost for certain from the pictures in slightly different light, but I will take your word for it; especially if a coworker noticed.

So several panels got the same treatment with PLB polish and coating, but had different results. Trunk panel did not get PBl polish and coating, but had the same result.

All the paint was treated the same prior to the PBL (polish, wipedown). I'm assuming all paint looked the same after prior treatment.

Issue has not presented itself before with a variety of LSPs.

These panels haven't been resprayed, have they?

I have had a case where the PBL polish was a bit difficult to remove from PPF, maybe there was some stubborn residue. But that's wouldn't fit with the trunk panel.

I also had one where 2 panels streaked badly and was only visible at dusk.

I thought you mentioned you didn't have a agarhe to work in (maybe mistaking this for a different thread) was this side done in the sun or were the panels hotter/colder when applying?

 

[fightnews]

It's difficult to tell how much clarity was lost for certain from the pictures in slightly different light, but I will take your word for it; especially if a coworker noticed.

So several panels got the same treatment with PLB polish and coating, but had different results. Trunk panel did not get PBl polish and coating, but had the same result.

All the paint was treated the same prior to the PBL (polish, wipedown). I'm assuming all paint looked the same after prior treatment.

Issue has not presented itself before with a variety of LSPs.

These panels haven't been resprayed, have they?

I have had a case where the PBL polish was a bit difficult to remove from PPF, maybe there was some stubborn residue. But that's wouldn't fit with the trunk panel.

I also had one where 2 panels streaked badly and was only visible at dusk.

I thought you mentioned you didn't have a agarhe to work in (maybe mistaking this for a different thread) was this side done in the sun or were the panels hotter/colder when applying?

No im working in a garage. I think I just confused things by mentioning the trunk. I coated everything but the trunk door and the roof. I'm seeing the issue on all the panels I coated except maybe the hood. I just polished some of it off with 3500 and a finishing pad and it looks so much better.

I've had big problems with that surface cleansing polish for whatever reason. I think 100% the surface polish seperated and dusted and the dust getting into the pads cussed major swirling. Especially the first time. It wasn't as bad with the new bottle but it still happened. I only gave it 2 passes 3 at the most.

 

[fightnews]

I didn't do the tape line I didn't feel like messing around with putting tape on the paint. I did take a picture after washing and right before polishing so this is squeaky clean



I'll take another pic when I'm done it was inside so it should come out the same

 

[Rmd]

That picture is much better than the previous ones. It definitely looks like there is some hazing in the reflection.

 

[fightnews]

That picture is much better than the previous ones. It definitely looks like there is some hazing in the reflection.

I thought the other ones showed it overall. Maybe I notice it more because it's my car IDK. It's all buffed off now though

 

[fightnews]

I think that my bottle has been probably sitting around the warehouse to long. I think that might have something to do with it to. I definitely prepped it right and I used butter soft suede to apply it. Used a lot of new 4" applicator towels and buffed with brand new carpro suede towels. I think I should get my money back or a store credit.

That surface cleansing polish by dusting/separating whatever. Not only caused swirls but the dust also interfered with the application since it got in all the nooks and crannies. I was crunched for time so I did the whole process and one day I didn't have time to repolish it and thoroughly clean every little crack

Plus it's the second bottle I bought that did the same thing to me it was even worse the first time