LSP stripping

The safest way to remove your lsp would be to use the DP Prep Polish, it will totally remove your last step plus cleanse the paint which will prep it for your new lsp.

I'm buying it to use it this summer on my my car and truck.
It's the best way from what I read in removimg your lsp.
It's worth the money which btw is inexpensive to use before you use a sealant or coating.
The DP Poli-Coat Paint Sealant is "Self prepping " so that may be another way to add protection without have to break your back in removing your lsp.
 
HateSwirls said:
The safest way to remove your lsp would be to use the DP Prep Polish, it will totally remove your last step plus cleanse the paint which will prep it for your new lsp.

I'm buying it to use it this summer on my my car and truck.
It's the best way from what I read in removimg your lsp.
It's worth the money which btw is inexpensive to use before you use a sealant or coating.
The DP Poli-Coat Paint Sealant is "Self prepping " so that may be another way to add protection without have to break your back in removing your lsp.
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Also WG Paintwork Polish Enhancer works extremely well and will strip the LSP and or layers of LSP's and clean the paint safely. :xyxthumbs:

Can be used by hand or machine.

Or one can just use a finishing polish that they likely already have on hand with a finishing pad....
 
Do cleaner waxes and things like klasse aio strip(then obviously add protection of their own, so hard to test in practice)? Mike made some reference to cleaner wax which made me wonder. Ive used cleaner wax to remove "togw" build up before and the build up was visibly removed.
 
I wonder if Optimum Paint Prep would remove sealants--the description says it includes mild solvents but no surfactants??

Optimum Paint Prep
 
ski2 said:
I wonder if Optimum Paint Prep would remove sealants--the description says it includes mild solvents but no surfactants??

Optimum Paint Prep
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I cannot find an MSDS on the product. Normally I give a fair bit of credit to optimum and I do think that they make good protecting products. The general type cleaners don't quite fill me with the same confidence. I would be really shocked at Paint prep doing a good job on a decent sealant.
 
PiPUK said:
I cannot find an MSDS on the product. Normally I give a fair bit of credit to optimum and I do think that they make good protecting products. The general type cleaners don't quite fill me with the same confidence. I would be really shocked at Paint prep doing a good job on a decent sealant.
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The only thing that shows up on the MSDS (now posted on their forum) is IPA.
 
7.3powerstroke said:
Yea, Whats your thoughts on that?
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I was trying to help PiPUK with his thoughts, since he couldn't find an MSDS. My thought is now that we have a GHS for SDS's, they don't tell you much anymore. I'm sure there are other ingredients, just that none of them are considered (by OPT, I guess) to be hazardous.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
The only thing that shows up on the MSDS (now posted on their forum) is IPA.
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That being the case, I'd pigeon hole it with car pro eraser. I have yet to encounter anything which will, in a water based formulation, reliably remove a decent sealant. Since this product has none of the really potent options (they would be hazardous and need listed), the additional ingredients are unlikely to be a major factor beyond the likes of wetting and customer experience. I could be wrong but the information makes it sound similar to eraser.

Incidentally, if someone European required an MSDS, optimum would have to list information about the non hazardous ingredients, an obligation under the detergent regulations over here. As it happens, I don't think optimum choose to do so, inspite of exporting to this part of the world.
 
PiPUK said:
That being the case, I'd pigeon hole it with car pro eraser. I have yet to encounter anything which will, in a water based formulation, reliably remove a decent sealant. Since this product has none of the really potent options (they would be hazardous and need listed), the additional ingredients are unlikely to be a major factor beyond the likes of wetting and customer experience. I could be wrong but the information makes it sound similar to eraser.

Incidentally, if someone European required an MSDS, optimum would have to list information about the non hazardous ingredients, an obligation under the detergent regulations over here. As it happens, I don't think optimum choose to do so, inspite of exporting to this part of the world.
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They show that as a GHS SDS, with US and Netherlands contacts. I'm sure the other ingredients are, as you noted, lubricants and perhaps fragrance. Which is a little surprising because Mike Phillips had related that Dr. G created Prep-All when he worked for Klean-Strip between PPG and starting OPT, but I guess he wanted something a little milder.

At any rate these products like Eraser are really meant to remove polishing oils rather than LSP's, right?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
They show that as a GHS SDS, with US and Netherlands contacts. I'm sure the other ingredients are, as you noted, lubricants and perhaps fragrance.
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Along with:
sodium lauryl ether sulfate (SLES),
CAS# 685-34-2, @1%-3%


Bob
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I don't see that on the version I'm looking at, which I downloaded today from the OPT forum. It's dated 1/16/2016.
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Sorry about that.
That's an ingredient in CarPro's Eraser.

You'd mentioned Eraser-like products...
Looks like I left out that part of your post:
Setec Astronomy said:
At any rate these products like Eraser are really
meant to remove polishing oils rather than LSP's, right?
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Bob
 
7.3powerstroke said:
Dr. G worked for Kleen Strip and created Prep-All? Interesting!
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I hope I remembered that right, I think Mike Phillips mentioned it at some point. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

EDIT: Phew, here it is, post #27: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...uce-coupe-hotrod-detailing-3.html#post1149910

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
No, I don't think so..... Prep All is pretty safe, this is also a product created by Dr. David Ghoudussi of Optimum Polymer Technologies when he worked for Kleen-Strip. It wipes smooth and clean. The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is the odor.
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Setec Astronomy said:
They show that as a GHS SDS, with US and Netherlands contacts. I'm sure the other ingredients are, as you noted, lubricants and perhaps fragrance. Which is a little surprising because Mike Phillips had related that Dr. G created Prep-All when he worked for Klean-Strip between PPG and starting OPT, but I guess he wanted something a little milder.

At any rate these products like Eraser are really meant to remove polishing oils rather than LSP's, right?
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Yup, we have one which is similar but it is wishful thinking to say that it will strip an lsp. Our spray waxes (which admittedly are polymer fortified) can stand up to wiping with neat IPA without a problem. A dilution and a bit of surfactant don't change this (in our experience).

FWIW, optimum should list other ingredients as, I suspect, they would not be using SLES. From a tech perspective that could well help sell the product 1-3 percent in a product like this is huge and hard to believe when stated to not leave a residue.
 
PiPUK said:
Yup, we have one which is similar but it is wishful thinking to say that it will strip an lsp. Our spray waxes (which admittedly are polymer fortified) can stand up to wiping with neat IPA without a problem. A dilution and a bit of surfactant don't change this (in our experience).

FWIW, optimum should list other ingredients as, I suspect, they would not be using SLES. From a tech perspective that could well help sell the product 1-3 percent in a product like this is huge and hard to believe when stated to not leave a residue.
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What are you referring to when you say "our spray waxes"? New(er) guy here. I'm not sure who everyone is here yet- but fun to be learning.
 
PiPUK said:
FWIW, optimum should list other ingredients as,
I suspect, they would not be using SLES.

From a tech perspective that could
well help sell the product

1-3 percent in a product like this is huge
and hard to believe when stated
to not leave a residue.
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Wouldn't the SLES (@1-3%), that's in CarPro's
Eraser paint-prep, leave behind any residue?

("Worse case scenario") Even if it would...
It must not have any negative impact or interfere
with CarPro's Coatings' applications/bonding...


Bob
 
FUNX650 said:
Wouldn't the SLES (@1-3%), that's in CarPro's
Eraser paint-prep, leave behind any residue?

("Worse case scenario") Even if it would...
It must not have any negative impact or interfere
with CarPro's Coatings' applications/bonding...


Bob
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"It must not have any negative impact or interfere
with CarPro's Coatings' applications/bonding...", but do you suspect it would affect adherence of sealants of other "families" of products?
 
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