M105 - Am I doing it wrong?!?

i also found m105 to be very hard to work with. i couldnt get hardly any correction with it and it gets very dry and dusty. with the meguiars MF system i have almost 100 percent correction and it is SUPER easy to use
 
Cutting paint is a dirty process and produces plenty of rubbish, exhausted product plus removed clear coat. The pad will simply not cut correctly, if it is contaminated. It is therefore imperative that whenever new product is added to the pad, that the pad is first cleaned with a correctly designed pad brush (3M). In other words whenever you put the polisher down after completing a sectional pass, the pad should be cleaned to remove all the spent material. This step should apply when using any polish, but especially when using a compound such as M105 which produces so much spent material. As you are new to polishing, I suggest that you get in the habit of cleaning the pad whenever you down your polisher, each and every time. If you learn that way, it becomes an ingrained natural habit.

As an aside, there are many threads here about a pad brush ruining a pad. In all instances, I would have to conclude, if that is happening, it is because of user error. A pad brush is designed to clean foam pads, so obviously if the pad is being damaged by the brush then the user must be using it incorrectly. The brush only needs to be lightly applied to the pad and then drawn across the pad to be effective. Obviously your DA should be on either speed 1 or 2 (depending on the DA) for pad cleaning purposes.

I suspect because many people don’t work clean, that those who have damaged a pad have left it far too late before attempting to clean the pad and therefore when they do attempt to clean the pad, they dig the brush into the pad trying to clean it and so damage the pad. If such a pad is so gummed up with spent product, then it should have been changed out for a new pad well before that point.

Two final points, tooth brushes are for cleaning your teeth, not foam pads. I personally think trying to clean a pad with an MF is a total waste of time when compared to the correct use of an inexpensive properly designed pad brush.

Great write up!

I will say, I have had zero luck with a pad brush on my Porter Cable. With it's jiggly action, there is simply no way to clean it quickly and often during a detail- but that has just been my experience. :o

Pressing it onto a terry cloth towel while running does remove product, but it really just soaks up whatever is wet.
 
I have found that Menzerna SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (PO83) works for me with very little to no dusting.

I like M105 for serious removal. I mist with water to re hydrate flashing/drying and it has a tendency to splatter.

The Megs MF DA cutting disc & D300 are not are aggressive as M105. The 5" BP and 5.5" discs work on a PC.
NOTE: Requires compressed air or a bug sponge for constant disc cleaning after each panel.

The Surbuf 5.5" pads are more aggressive than the LC Orange pad. I haven't had good luck with LC Yellow pads.

IMHO
Aggressive: most to least for a PC.

Surbuf
MF disc
Orange

Aggressive: most to least for a rotary.

Wool
Kompressor Purple
Orange
 
I have found that Menzerna SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (PO83) works for me with very little to no dusting.

I like M105 for serious removal. I mist with water to re hydrate flashing/drying and it has a tendency to splatter.

The Megs MF DA cutting disc & D300 are not are aggressive as M105. The 5" BP and 5.5" discs work on a PC.
NOTE: Requires compressed air or a bug sponge for constant disc cleaning after each panel.

The Surbuf 5.5" pads are more aggressive than the LC Orange pad. I haven't had good luck with LC Yellow pads.

IMHO
Aggressive: most to least for a PC.

Surbuf
MF disc
Orange

Aggressive: most to least for a rotary.

Wool
Kompressor Purple
Orange

your saying the surbuf MF pad is more aggressive than the meguiars MF pad?

ill have to try it out. i jus tbought the optimum MF pads and thsoe are the worst pads i ever used in my life. ripped apart on speed 4 after just one panel.... and its so soft
 
The Surbuf 5.5" pads are more aggressive than the LC Orange pad. I haven't had good luck with LC Yellow pads.

IMHO
Aggressive: most to least for a PC.

Surbuf
MF disc
Orange

Aggressive: most to least for a rotary.

Wool
Kompressor Purple
Orange

So where would the yellow pads fall on this scale?
 
your saying the surbuf MF pad is more aggressive than the meguiars MF pad?

ill have to try it out. i jus tbought the optimum MF pads and thsoe are the worst pads i ever used in my life. ripped apart on speed 4 after just one panel.... and its so soft

IMHO the Surbuf is more aggressive than the MF discs
I've had good luck with the Megs MF cutting discs and D300

A lot more fun than M105 (no splatter, no drying out, no taping off etc.) but not as aggressive.
 
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