M105 replacement?

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I finally got to use my DA for the first time this weekend, yes I'm a newbie. I was using M105 on an orange LC CCS pad and it was drying out like crazy. I have read about the short working time and the learning curve (after I bought it) and was trying everything I could think of to make it work better; smaller area, less product, more product, pad conditioner, more speed, less speed, but it was drying to the point I had to use IPA to get it off after only one or two section passes. I know I have a lot to learn but I would like to learn with something else. So I am looking for suggestions for something with about the same cut but with a much loooonger working time. I used the 205 and really liked it, but with the 105 I spent more time cleaning than polishing. Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
 
S2K said:
I finally got to use my DA for the first time this weekend, yes I'm a newbie. I was using M105 on an orange LC CCS pad and it was drying out like crazy. I have read about the short working time and the learning curve (after I bought it) and was trying everything I could think of to make it work better; smaller area, less product, more product, pad conditioner, more speed, less speed, but it was drying to the point I had to use IPA to get it off after only one or two section passes. I know I have a lot to learn but I would like to learn with something else. So I am looking for suggestions for something with about the same cut but with a much loooonger working time. I used the 205 and really liked it, but with the 105 I spent more time cleaning than polishing. Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
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You need to prime the whole pad with 105. Optimum spray compound is a good option.
 
I did try priming my pad and after a couple section passes it was well saturated but was still drying out on the paint. I was "cleaning on the fly" and leaving it wet but nothing seemed to help.
 
There's another thread around here about Meguiar's 105 drying out. From reading people's comments & my personal experience: the pad must be properly primed (meaning the entire surface of the pad must have 105 manually worked into it, and then still put additional 105 in either an "X" or circle pattern. Put the pad on the surface to be worked, turn on PC and work a small area- slowly; that's more or less what is referred to as the Kevin brown method). 105 can be a pain, but it does turn out good results so I'd suggest experimenting with a few ways of making it work before you give up completely. Yes, 105 dries quickly and Yes, some guys really like Optimum's new product.
 
I agree it does work good. The car I did was basically a practice car for me, lots of swirls and scratches. It got rid of scratches I thought wasn't possible. The areas I worked by hand went great, no drying and nice clean scratch free paint after. I did like using it by hand, but I wouldn't want to do a whole car like that.
 
S2K said:
I finally got to use my DA for the first time this weekend, yes I'm a newbie. I was using M105 on an orange LC CCS pad and it was drying out like crazy. I have read about the short working time and the learning curve (after I bought it) and was trying everything I could think of to make it work better; smaller area, less product, more product, pad conditioner, more speed, less speed, but it was drying to the point I had to use IPA to get it off after only one or two section passes. I know I have a lot to learn but I would like to learn with something else. So I am looking for suggestions for something with about the same cut but with a much loooonger working time. I used the 205 and really liked it, but with the 105 I spent more time cleaning than polishing. Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
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Google the Kevin Brown Method
 
If you choose to move to another line, likely Menzerna is where to start. Powergloss might be a bit more abrasive and SIP a bit less, but sounds like they might be a choice.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
If you choose to move to another line, likely Menzerna is where to start. Powergloss might be a bit more abrasive and SIP a bit less, but sounds like they might be a choice.
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What I am trying to accomplish is to learn technique and build a system before I tackle my Honda. I have read about how soft the paint is on S2000's and mine is full of swirls and light scratches and it is black so I want a good system before I do anything to it. I have plenty of "practice" cars I can work on and I am very open to trying different products to find something I really like. I really like the results I got from 105/205, just didn't like what I went through to get those results.
Thanks for everyones suggestions, I'm looking into all of them.
 
Use some water on a spray bottle. The lubricant on 105 really dries faster especially when you spread it. Since it's a SMAT,you can use water to lubricate the paint and still use the abrasives present. That will definitely give you 1-2 more passes. :)
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
If you choose to move to another line, likely Menzerna is where to start. Powergloss might be a bit more abrasive and SIP a bit less, but sounds like they might be a choice.
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Super Intensive Polish is a great product, still one of my all time favorite polishes.
 
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