M3 is Revived and Coated with Optimum Gloss Coat

Thank you Zach, for taking time to share your experience(s) with Opti Gloss Coat.

I just ordered some today and will be applying it for the very first time to both my wife and I's brand new Daily Drivers and if all goes well, I'll also be applying it to my moms new prius.

I'm a bit nervous considering I've never applied a coating before, but am somewhat confident that I can do it after reading some of the threads here and the few vids I've seen.

Any other helpful tips you can share with a noob ..??? :)



Thanks in advance!
®ick~
 
~TumbleWeed~ said:
Thank you Zach, for taking time to share your experience(s) with Opti Gloss Coat.

I just ordered some today and will be applying it for the very first time to both my wife and I's brand new Daily Drivers and if all goes well, I'll also be applying it to my moms new prius.

I'm a bit nervous considering I've never applied a coating before, but am somewhat confident that I can do it after reading some of the threads here and the few vids I've seen.

Any other helpful tips you can share with a noob ..??? :)



Thanks in advance!
®ick~
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It is all in the prep... seriously! lol

Be sure to thoroughly clean, decontaminate, and polish the surface to a brilliant finish prior to coating. After polishing, you may need to wash the vehicle again, and at the very least, you will need to use a surface prep solution such as CarPro Eraser, Isopropyl Alcohol, or similar product in order to remove any traces of polishing oils that may remain on the surface. These oils can interfere with the coating and lead to reduced life and performance, so it is very important to take the time to ensure the paint is completely clean!

Once you've got that taken care of, GC is very easy to apply. I prefer to use the CarPro applicator block and suede, so I apply some product to the applicator and begin working with straight line motions... adding more product to the applicator when I notice it is not spreading easily. I worked one panel at a time and waited several minutes for the product to self level (mostly) before wiping away any high spots. Repeat until the entire car has been coated... very, very easy product to use!

Let me know if you've got any other questions.

-Zach
 
Zach,

Can you create a separate thread on how you actually use your PTG to determine the estimated thickness of the CC layer?

I wish someone whom had the Defelsko that can measure individual layers would examine the theory of using the door jambs as a yardstick. I believe that the BC AND CC on my jambs is thin and this would throw off the math

Thanks,

Kyle
 
allenk4 said:
Zach,



Can you create a separate thread on how you actually use your PTG to determine the estimated thickness of the CC layer?



I wish someone whom had the Defelsko that can measure individual layers would examine the theory of using the door jambs as a yardstick. I believe that the BC AND CC on my jambs is thin and this would throw off the math



Thanks,



Kyle
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Hey Kyle,

I'd be happy to briefly show the "door jam estimate" technique... I'll add it to my to do list. As you mentioned, this is certainly never a fail safe way of determining the amount of clear that is available, but it can often be used as a baseline estimate.

There are times when it will not be remotely accurate, and others when it may be useful.

It would be great if someone with a positector 200 would do the test and provide individual readings... Wish I had one.

-Zach
 
zmcgovern45 said:
Hey Kyle,

I'd be happy to briefly show the "door jam estimate" technique... I'll add it to my to do list. As you mentioned, this is certainly never a fail safe way of determining the amount of clear that is available, but it can often be used as a baseline estimate.

There are times when it will not be remotely accurate, and others when it may be useful.

It would be great if someone with a positector 200 would do the test and provide individual readings... Wish I had one.

-Zach
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200 b3 is the latest one and apparently it doesn't work (show layers) on automotive sheet metal. only composites, plastics, etc. it works on metal...but in the automotive paint setting, the sheet metal is too thin for the ultrasonic technology to be reliable.

i had the same idea as you and was going to ask a friend with one to help put together a basic list of various cars to illustrate how it can vary. no dice.

bummer.
 
builthatch said:
200 b3 is the latest one and apparently it doesn't work (show layers) on automotive sheet metal. only composites, plastics, etc. it works on metal...but in the automotive paint setting, the sheet metal is too thin for the ultrasonic technology to be reliable.

i had the same idea as you and was going to ask a friend with one to help put together a basic list of various cars to illustrate how it can vary. no dice.

bummer.
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Defelsko says it does:

When connected to a PosiTector Advanced gage body, the PosiTector 200 B probe ($1,615) is capable of measuring the thickness of clear coat (individually) and base coat / primer combined.

Please rwefer to our website for details: http://www.defelsko.com/p200/p200_ordering_guide.htm

I think the "Typical Uses" verbiage on the chart is throwing people off
 
allenk4 said:
Defelsko says it does:

When connected to a PosiTector Advanced gage body, the PosiTector 200 B probe ($1,615) is capable of measuring the thickness of clear coat (individually) and base coat / primer combined.

Please rwefer to our website for details: http://www.defelsko.com/p200/p200_ordering_guide.htm

I think the "Typical Uses" verbiage on the chart is throwing people off
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unfortunately, not on automotive metal. it's too thin. metal, yes, but not sheet metal. i've checked with them, as did my friend prior to his purchase of the b3. he has a 6000 for metal, since it's not ultrasonic (easier) and more reliable on sheet metal. apparently the 200 b3 can read total coating thickness on automotive metal, like the 6000, but like i said, not anywhere nearly as easily or as reliably as the 6000.
 
Builthatch is Right

I just got off of the phone with Bob Wells at Defelsko and he confirms that the 200 will not give accurate readings for individual layers on automotive thickness metals

Only works on Plastics, SMC, carbon fiber, etc

Too bad the plastic bumpers are usually painted separately from the rest of the car and you can't use the numbers from the bumper to determine the CC thickness on the rest of the car

Good catch Builthatch
 
We also talked about how the wet/wet application of some paint systems can even make it difficult to get accurate readings of individual layers on anything

Great Customer Service from Defelsko. I emailed them, they actually took the time to call me
 
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