Maestro Sam
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Yea right... You act like true professionals don't know the tricks of the trade and when and how to safely bend the rules...
Take Darren Priest of Auto Fetish Detail for example, he's made vids where he demonstrates using Wheel Brightener to detail the intricate grill on a Bentley. Plus he uses that same Wheel Brightener to clean just about every wheel he runs into on a daily basis for the past 20+ years and to your surprise hasn't even died yet! Lol.
He also uses Magic Erasers for a plethora of different uses because he's smart and experienced enough to know when.. I think you're in the wrong to try and tell a full time professional detailer what's right and wrong.
Just my 2 cents.
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Magic Erasers are incredibly useful tools and have their place for both interior and exterior application.
Maestro Sam makes great points about being cautious, checking your work, and keeping an eye on the progressive application of Magic Erasers on leather.
Important to not that not all leather is the same quality, and in some cases, may not even be leather at all, though advertised as such.
Also important to note that leather dye and coatings on production vehicles these days are not the best quality, and that trend is only getting worse.
It is entirely possible to remove coatings and dye from leather as a result of the poor quality of the coating and dye.
Not a result of over aggressiveness or misapplication of the tool.
Detailers using the Magic Eraser will have different opinions on the subject, and have different experiences to draw from.
There will be cases where no other tool nor chemical product will work, and the Magic Eraser is the most suitable tool for the job.
There is a time and place for it.
A high level of caution is always advisable when applying a Magic Eraser to leather, vinyl, plastic, etc...
There will be trial and error for anyone new to using a Magic Eraser to clean interior surfaces.
This goes for both experienced detailers and rookies.
There is a learning curve for everything.
Most detailers have burned through clear coat and/ or paint at least once.
Does not mean they are a bad detailer.
Just means they made a mistake / miscalculation in their approach: pad, product, machine speed, pressure, temperature of panel, etc...
I personally use the Magic Eraser for interior cleaning when the appropriate moment calls for it.
I find it to be an indispensable tool that can remove dirt and contaminants when other methods just don't work.
Like anything else, test on materials of your own first, before using on a customer's vehicle.
Great points from both and thankyou
judyb works for this company: Home - LTT
You guys are indeed correct. It is not the MAGIC ERASER, " it is the user."
As you can see, they are specialized in leather care. Judy has been active in Detail Forums for 10 years or more, always being very helpful and straightforward with any questions asked: what is there still to doubt?
"Melamine sponges are like a very fine sandpaper
They work by removing or ‘sanding’ a very fine amount from the surface that is being cleaned – great for wood and hard surfaces but very detrimental to the fine surface finish on leather
Whilst results might look amazing the process is seriously detrimental to the longevity of your leather and in no time at all your leather will need repairs and restoration work to stop the finishes from depleting further
Products sold to be used in conjunction with these sponges simply rely on the abrasion of the sponge rather than the product being the correct formulation to clean the leather safely
So take care next time you reach for one of these to use on your leather you it may cost you much more than you think
Team LTT"
Everything happens over time just like wet sanding or paint correction. A vehicle can receive dozens of paint corrections depending on the thickness of the paint and more importantly, how aggressive the user corrects it. When doing a full paint correction, you are correcting the area periodically over and over. With the Magic Eraser, you are correcting an isolated spot and it will be very difficult to remove clear since you are using the sponge in "different places", not like paint correction where you are going over the same spot. Like how I mention over and over, it is the user, not the M.E that is causing the damage. A smart person using a M.E will want to soak the M.E with water, low pressure on the isolated area, and check their work frequently.