Maybe the LC orange pad should be marketed as a polishing pad?

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Every daily driver I've worked on with swirled paint with an LC Orange and M105, it just doesn't come close to a swirl free finish. It tackles maybe 50% of the swirls. M105 is a potent compound, and while the orange pad is a "light cutting" pad, it's still classified as a cutting pad. I'm always unimpressed with it's cutting ability. I use it mainly with the Flex 3401. The cut of this pad is just not there, IME. :dunno: I always have to go with a B&S yellow, surbuf, or MF disc.
 
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I experienced the same thing you did, I purchased some LT HT Cyans and will try those soon
 
make sure you change out the HT's often.
 
I agree with you, never got a finish I was happy with using the orange pad and m105. On the other hand I was satisfied with the results the orange pad and Wolfgang total swirl remover gave me.
 
Ive gotten good results with orange ccs pads and sip... but its q white car and i take a long time on each panel
 
The whole point of this pad is good cutting ability while creating no hazing--which is what it does. If you want better cutting, use a yellow cutting pad or surbuf, as you do.

IMO this is like complaining that UC doesn't cut as well as M105...so why do they call it a compound?
 
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The whole point of this pad is good cutting ability while creating no hazing--which is what it does. If you want better cutting, use a yellow cutting pad or surbuf, as you do.

IMO this is like complaining that UC doesn't cut as well as M105...so why do they call it a compound?
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I diasgree.

As far as the M105, UC comparison, they probably shouldn't market it as a compound.
 
Are we then also going to get into the semantics of "polishes"? Such as when should something be called a "compound", "polish", "glaze", "swirl remover, etc.?

Are we going to try and parse for every manufacturer and every combination of pad, chemical, paint, what the definition of "cutting" "light cutting" "polishing" "light polishing" "finishing" "great for AIO" "compounding" etc. is for pads?

Should we boycott Duragloss and Zaino because they call their LSP's "polishes" and confuse new forum members? People base whole careers on exploring the nuance of language, because it's not that black and white.

So if orange pads are now going to be "polishing" pads, what are we going to call green pads and white pads? Or is orange going to be "heavy polishing"? Or maybe "agressive polishing", or even "finessing cutting".
 
So glad I switched to MF pads almost exclusively. I havnt used an orange pad in months.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Are we then also going to get into the semantics of "polishes"? Such as when should something be called a "compound", "polish", "glaze", "swirl remover, etc.?

Are we going to try and parse for every manufacturer and every combination of pad, chemical, paint, what the definition of "cutting" "light cutting" "polishing" "light polishing" "finishing" "great for AIO" "compounding" etc. is for pads?

Should we boycott Duragloss and Zaino because they call their LSP's "polishes" and confuse new forum members? People base whole careers on exploring the nuance of language, because it's not that black and white.

So if orange pads are now going to be "polishing" pads, what are we going to call green pads and white pads? Or is orange going to be "heavy polishing"? Or maybe "agressive polishing", or even "finessing cutting".
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Look, you do have valid points. However, I'm not trying to start an argument here. I'm specifically talking about the orange pad, not any other product. Most people seem to agree that the orange pad doesn't give them the cut that they expected, and I'm just making a point of it.
 
I use MF pads for cutting and LC orange and white for polishing and AIO's.

Come to think of it you could probably run a detail business with just Megs MF system. For 2 steps D300 and cutting disc with finishing wax and finishing discs. For 1 step just the finishing wax and finishing discs.
Optional 2nd coat of LSP.
 
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Look, you do have valid points. However, I'm not trying to start an argument here. I'm specifically talking about the orange pad, not any other product. Most people seem to agree that the orange pad doesn't give them the cut that they expected, and I'm just making a point of it.
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It seems to me one of the stores used to market orange pads as "versatile" pads as opposed calling them cutting or polishing pads. Sorry they didn't work out as you expected, but if I had a nickel for every detailing product I bought that didn't work as I expected...well...I'd have enough to buy some more detailing products.

The HT Tangerine pads are everything the regular orange are and more, BTW.
 
Call it "Heavy polishing". The light cutting term is just used as 1 reference point. There are a bunch of factors when polish cars. Ambient temp, chemical used, type of clear, thiscness of clear, brand of clear, speed of machine, type of machine, time spent polishing and many more. Does this make sense?
 
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